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Old 15 October 2015, 05:41 PM
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They also did some arranging of body parts that was fairly extensive and not naturally how those parts look, in order to " make them beautiful."
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Old 16 October 2015, 02:22 AM
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About the only advantage Playboy has really had over internet porn has been the occasional "celebrity" pose for them. I'm actually surprised it took them this long to make the change.
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Old 16 October 2015, 06:05 AM
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About the only advantage Playboy has really had over internet porn has been the occasional "celebrity" pose for them. I'm actually surprised it took them this long to make the change.
Yep. It's not even like they were "very nude", it's just quite modest posing, more art than erotica. In an era where every orifice close up, spread wide, stuffed full (and everything more or less than that...) is just an anonymous mouse click away, they've pretty much lost their business niche. They are like dinosaurs, big and impressive, but the little upstarts are eating their eggs. They have to re-invent themself or go extinct.
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Old 17 October 2015, 05:58 PM
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I always was curious as to the actual subscription rate of Playboy vs one off occasional purchases. I also am curious as to what the age group has the highest subscription rate. My instinct is that the numbers of subscriptions peaks at young adult (18-22 let's say) and drops off not long after that when guys start having more permanent relationships where not having porn delivered monthly is more desired.

I also am curious about the demographics around magazine subscriptions today for non-hobby type magazines. They are probably not doing well too. I read an article that the most popular magazine subscription is one published by aarp. So was number 2. My point being is that I wonder how many people buy magazine subscriptions compared to 10 years ago for the critical age group. My wag is that it's much lower.
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Old 17 October 2015, 10:24 PM
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I would expect that the 18-22 demographic would actually have a low subscription rate just because fewer such people live by themselves, which seems like it would inhibit a person's desire to have such a magazine delivered to them.
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Old 14 February 2017, 04:09 AM
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Default After Only a Year, Playboy Is Bringing Back Nude Pictorials

After a year of keeping its magazine models clad, Playboy has decided au naturel is the way to go, after all.

The magazine announced on Monday nude women will grace its pages once again. The March/April issue cover boasts the appropriate headline, "Naked is the new normal."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...orials-n720341
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Old 14 February 2017, 12:42 PM
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After a year of keeping its magazine models clad, Playboy has decided au naturel is the way to go, after all.
I'm not at all surprised. This had a "New Coke" feel to it the whole time. Having grown up in a time when Playboy was available unwrapped on almost every newsstand - often browsed through before being bought, and occasionally featuring nudity on the cover - I've never fully understood the prudishness that led to Maxim and the like, let alone Playboy's now-negated decision. The most oddball manifestation is seeing Playboy wrapped in plastic at the same Barnes & Noble that has easily accessible books of nude photography - some of which are far more provocative than Playboy ever was.
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Old 14 February 2017, 01:19 PM
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Your book stores carry Playboy? I can't remember the last time I saw magazines like Playboy in our local bookstores. I'm guessing they're still available in the local convenience stores like Mac's Milk, maybe the stores connected to service stations too. But otherwise I think you may need to go to the (as my sister calls them) the "naughty stores" to get your porn magazine fix.
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But otherwise I think you may need to go to the (as my sister calls them) the "naughty stores" to get your porn magazine fix.
And that, friends, is the difference between Ontario and Quebec.

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Old 14 February 2017, 01:31 PM
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Could be a provincial thing but I suspect in the case of bookstores it's more of a there is pretty much only one game in town anymore thing, Chapters/Indigo has eliminated so much of the competition! But on the subject of Quebec vs Ontario we're catching up. We now have beer and wine in some of our grocery stores .
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We now have beer and wine in some of our grocery stores .
Also on Sundays?

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Old 14 February 2017, 02:37 PM
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Your book stores carry Playboy? I can't remember the last time I saw magazines like Playboy in our local bookstores. I'm guessing they're still available in the local convenience stores like Mac's Milk, maybe the stores connected to service stations too. But otherwise I think you may need to go to the (as my sister calls them) the "naughty stores" to get your porn magazine fix.
I never thought of Playboy magazine proper as porn, although some of their all-pictorial specials might qualify. To me it's a mainstream lifestyle magazine that has some nude photos in it. Then again, public female toplessness is legal in New York, so nudity per se may just be accepted more. The "naughty stores" here definitely carry a very different breed of publication.

More to your original question, yes the bookstores here with a medium-to-large magazine section carry Playboy, and often Playboy specials, Penthouse, and other such things. The same can be said of stationery stores (i.e. the old-school newspaper, candy, and tobacco type shops). I personally blame 7-Eleven stores for the anti-nudity stance that forced Playboy to be wrapped in plastic: in the 1970s (IIRC) 7-Eleven corporate insisted all nude magazines not be out on the magazine stands, but sold "under the counter" as if they were of dubious legality.

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And that, friends, is the difference between Ontario and Quebec.
I'm too American to get this joke, although I still laughed for some reason.
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Old 14 February 2017, 02:43 PM
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Also on Sundays?

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I know there are some limits to the hours that stores can sell beer/wine but am not sure what they are, they do sell them on Sunday though. Are you referencing an older law with regard to Sunday, booze and Ontario? I ask because AFAIK the Beer Store and the LCBO are both open Sundays and have been for as long as I've lived in this province.
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Old 14 February 2017, 02:49 PM
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I'm too American to get this joke, although I still laughed for some reason.
Well if you ask the average French-Canadian (from Quebec) how he sees the rest of Canada (including Ontario), you'd get a resounding "prude". Whether that's true or not, that's of course open to debate.

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I ask because AFAIK the Beer Store and the LCBO are both open Sundays and have been for as long as I've lived in this province.
yeah LCBO/Beer Store - thought they were closed on Sundays. I know the one in Cornwall ON was closed on Sundays, back in the early 90's.

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I remember a Quebecois friend, when asked if it was easier to buy alcohol in Quebec, saying "Are you kidding? We have red and white wine taps in our hotel rooms!"
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It's funny what you get used to. I grew up in Quebec and never even noticed the beer and wine in stores. They were just there. Now I've lived in Ontario so long that having them show up on the grocery store shelves is a little weird!

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Old 14 February 2017, 04:15 PM
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public female toplessness is legal in New York, so nudity per se may just be accepted more.
Public female toplessness is technically legal in NYState, yes. IME accepted, no.
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Old 14 February 2017, 06:06 PM
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Public female toplessness is technically legal in NYState, yes. IME accepted, no.
On thinking it over, I believe you are right on this.

But getting back to my original point, I believe that in the 1960s and early 1970s Playboy pictorials were generally considered less than pornographic, and almost socially acceptable in mixed adult company, partly because the magazine was much more than the pictures, and partly because the pictures were more tasteful (if not more "artistic") than most of the other "nudie" publications. No, they were not universally accepted - not by a long shot - but but it seems that since then many more people have a tendency to lump all depictions of nudity - particularly female nudity - into the same barrel that contains overtly misogynistic hardcore pornography.

And for God's sake, won't somebody think of the children?
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Old 14 February 2017, 07:03 PM
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I haven't seen a Playboy in years but the ones I remember seeing most recently would probably be circa about 2000-2001. They were tasteful and artistic only in comparison to some of the really hardcore porn that was out there at that time (and presumably still is).
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Old 14 February 2017, 07:19 PM
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Chas Fink, having lived through the 60s and 70s, I can assure you Playboy was considered pornographic, albeit soft porn.

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