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And anyway, isn't "the eye of the needle" supposed to be some gate in the walls of Jerusalem, that was renowned for being particularly wide so that rich people could bring big carts overflowing with massive bags of gold through it, or something?
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I've heard of the Camel and Needle Gateway idea; I've also heard that the "camel" could also refer to the thickest size of rope (like a ship's hawser) even as the needle is just a sewing needle, possibly one used for embroidery.
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My favorite hypothesis is that it was a typo: the original phrase was supposed to be about the difficulty of getting a needle through the eye of a camel.
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If the eye of the needle isn't small enough to make it difficult for a camel to pass through, what's the point?
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To make the poor think that it is difficult for the rich to get into heaven so the poor wouldn't decide to rise up and take the rich's money. IE, the Bible was the Fox News of the time.
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But the poor wouldn't think so if it referred to a wide gate.
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If the rich knew it referred to a wide gate, but the poor thought it referred to an actual needle (because the guards only allowed the rich to use the gate) then it would still work.
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So the poor wouldn't know the name of the gate because they weren't allowed to go through it?
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Right. It was called a different name, but had the correct name in gold inlay in the underside of the arch. Only someone passing under the arch could read it.
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I could swear I've heard or read or seen something about someone who had a giant needle constructed specifically to circumvent the camel/needle problem. I even have a vague recollection of seeing a photograph of the thing sticking up out of the ground so that the eye essentially formed an archway.
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