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Old 21 October 2013, 04:56 PM
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The pastor sounds like a pervert and a creep. He sees a woman he desires, and his come on line is "God said you are my wife (now let me shag you.)" And he does not take no for an answer.

To answer a few medical questions, having nothing to do with the veracity of the glurge:

1. A blood beta-HCG would give an indication of how far along a woman is early on. The home kits and the blood screen are yes or no, but teh quantitative gives a level that could give a guess early in pregnancy.

Also, how pregnancy is timed is from the last period, but that is two weeks before conception in most women. And the older home kits would not be sensitive until 10-14 days post conception (newer ones are closer to one week or less.) So two weeks after conception, most women would be "4 weeks pregnant". I do not think the glurger thought about it that hard.

2. Ectopic pregnancies can occur outside the uterus. They do not tend to work out and can be deadly to the mother. They also, AFAIK, happen in women with a uterus, not without.

3. Hysterectomy- the woman keeps the ovaries. Hysterectomy with BSO (bilateral salpingo-oopherectomy), she does not. Cancer would be a reason to remove it all. "Abortion avoidance" would not.

ETA disclaimer: IAAD, but IANAOB
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Old 21 October 2013, 05:06 PM
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Shouldn't that be IANAG, instead of IANAOB?

ETA: Assuming of course that UANAG.
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Old 21 October 2013, 05:32 PM
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IANAOBG. Better?

(FTR, IAAP)
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Old 21 October 2013, 05:42 PM
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Gs take care of the Vs and OBs catch the babies. SO, IANAOB seems more applicable here.
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Old 21 October 2013, 05:45 PM
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But he was talking about the W, not about catching the B.

Also, is he the P that takes care of the K or the P that takes care of the F?
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Old 21 October 2013, 05:57 PM
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Actually, I've never understood why the field of reproductive medicine is so diversified. You have OBs who do the delivery, and Gyns who take care of the reproductive system of the woman. But, wait a minute, the OBs don't really specialize in the reproductive system. If you have problems in the reproductive system, you go to the RE. But, wait a minute again. REs don't know anything about the fetus itself. If you are worried about fetal health, you need to go to a fetal specialist. And this is just looking at the woman. If you are worried about male reproductive health, you go to a urologist. The ObGyn says.. hey hey.. I only look at innies. You take your outie outta here.

That doesn't happen with let's say your digestive system, right? You have a problem digesting your food, you go to a gastroenterologist. You don;t have a doctor who specializes just on the lower intestine, and another on upper intestine. Or you don't have a doctor who specializes only in how food gets digested*, and another one who specializes on how food gets pooped out.

Why the hyper specialization in reproductive systems? Is it everything is so complicated down there? Why can't they have something like reproductive centers where all the specialists just stay under one roof

*I'm sure there are researchers who do hyper-specialization. I'm not talking about research but clinical practice of medicine.
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Old 21 October 2013, 06:01 PM
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Every gynecologist I've ever gone to has been an ob-gyn.
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Old 21 October 2013, 06:10 PM
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Yeah, I've never seen a Ob that wasn't a Gen, and I'm pretty sure all RE/REI's are ObGyns, as well.

And as for the OP, did anyone else wonder if MySpace had finally made the jump to facebook?
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Old 21 October 2013, 06:11 PM
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And why wouldn't we have different clinical specialties for men's and woman's reproductive health? They're completely different systems.
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Old 21 October 2013, 06:29 PM
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Every gynecologist I've ever gone to has been an ob-gyn.
Yes. It is one specialty. I was going with the acronym thing and the joke, but getting away from that, OB/Gyn is one residency/specialty. Some then go and do additional training in any one of a bunch of things- gynecological oncology for example. Or high risk OB. Some at one point in their practice focus on just one- in that case it is usually gynecology, because they just don't want to deliver babies at all hours, or don't want the malpractice insurance price, or for whatever reason. Family Medicine physicians deliver babies to, but they don't do surgery.

Reproductive endocrine, i.e. "infertility doc" would usually be an OB/Gyn who then does a fellowship in RE. If for no other reason that the full line of care includes gynecological surgery. An internist/endocrinologist could be part of the team, or at a university part of the research team, but you need a gyenecologist.

Also, some advanced specialties you can come from various directions- so an OB/Gyn could do advanced training and focus on urologic surgery for women, and a urologist could focus on urologic surgery for women as well. But an OB/Gyn is not likely to do urologic surgery for a man.
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Old 21 October 2013, 08:07 PM
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Also, some advanced specialties you can come from various directions- so an OB/Gyn could do advanced training and focus on urologic surgery for women, and a urologist could focus on urologic surgery for women as well. But an OB/Gyn is not likely to do urologic surgery for a man.
Well, why the heck not?! It's the same stuff, just a longer hose!
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Old 22 October 2013, 01:08 AM
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Those are called Abdominable pregnancies
Best typo ever. Is that where abdominable snowmen come from?
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Old 22 October 2013, 10:58 AM
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You know it took me 5 minutes to find the typo even after seeing your post. I'm so a.b.normal that it's abdominable.
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Old 22 October 2013, 11:16 AM
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Shouldn't that be IANAG, instead of IANAOB?

ETA: Assuming of course that UANAG.
At first I assumed that the "G" in this stood for "God"...

Of course none of us can comment on the OP unless we're Gods, because God did it! How would we know whether God can do that?
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Old 22 October 2013, 08:02 PM
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Actually, I recall seeing an ad for a pregnancy test that can tell you how far along you are, but I don't remember which brand it was. I have no idea if it actually works.
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Old 22 October 2013, 08:10 PM
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I'm sure it does, within a certain margin of error.
"Congratulations! You're 20 weeks pregnant! plus or minus 20 weeks"
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Old 23 October 2013, 01:35 PM
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I'm sure it does, within a certain margin of error.
"Congratulations! You're 20 weeks pregnant! plus or minus 20 weeks"
with a 5% margin for error, 18 times out of 20.
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Old 23 October 2013, 03:34 PM
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The pregnancy test that tells you the number of weeks does it by testing your hCG levels. It uses a differrent measurement criteria than what the doctor would use. The doctor would count the number of weeks from your last period, and use hCG to check for the health of the pregnancy. hCG should double every 2 days (I think) in an healthy pregnancy. The strip on the other hand uses the level of hCG to estimate how far long are you. That can be inaccurate because there is a wide range of "healthy" hCG levels. To the doctor, the absolute hCG level doesn't matter (unless it is very low) . What matters is that it should be increasing exponentially.

SO, yeah, if you start off with high hCG, the test might tell you you are 2-4 weeks, when you might be 1-2, or if you start with low, it might tell you the opposite. You cannot trust hCG levels. From the point of how babies are made, what matters is the date the woman ovulates, which is usually 2 weeks after the last period. The only way to say with 100% accuracy how far along you are early in the pregnancy is to test for ovulation *before* you conceive
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Old 07 November 2013, 11:55 PM
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This story takes miraculous occurence to the extreme. I've never heard any testimony like this before, not even on TV programs like the "700 Club" back when I used to watch them--more than 20 years ago.

First, it's impossible for a woman whose uterus has been removed to get pregnant. But, of course, with God all things are possible. That's the mentality behind Pentecostal/charismatic thinking.

It's more likely that she never really had the hysterectomy to begin with since her womb was not missing.

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Old 08 November 2013, 01:05 AM
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It's more likely the woman doesn't exist at all, I think!
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