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Old 19 July 2018, 10:15 PM
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New York Times reports: Trump to Invite Putin to Washington

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Is it that unusual?
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Old 19 July 2018, 11:15 PM
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Given that Russia's considered a hostile government at the moment? Hell yes.
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Old 20 July 2018, 12:17 AM
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According to Wikipedia's list of official Presidential trips by Putin, and list of diplomatic visits to the USA, Putin has visited the USA (while President of Russia) in:

2000 (meeting Clinton)
2001 (State visit with Bush)
2003 (went to Camp David)
2004 (G8)
2005 and 2007 ("working visits", during one of which he met Bush)
2015 (met Obama at the UN)

I'm not sure at which point during that Russia became considered a hostile government to the USA. Is that an official designation? Did it happen recently, if so? Or did some of those other visits also happen while Russia was a hostile government?

(He's visited the UK a similar number of times).
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Old 20 July 2018, 12:24 AM
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I'm not sure at which point during that Russia became considered a hostile government to the USA.
March 2014.
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Old 20 July 2018, 12:27 AM
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... So again, is that an official thing? And he visited Obama since then... Well, visited the UN and met him anyway, which isn't necessarily the same as whatever Trump's proposing.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-sarah-sanders

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“I look forward to our second meeting so that we can start implementing some of the many things discussed, including stopping terrorism, security for Israel, nuclear ... proliferation, cyber attacks, trade, Ukraine, Middle East peace, North Korea and more. There are many answers, some easy and some hard, to these problems...but they can ALL be solved!”
He missed off World Peace, but only just, since he's got Middle East Peace on the list and that might be enough to be getting on with. And flying cars are even closer to being just around the corner than they've ever been, too...
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Old 20 July 2018, 01:10 AM
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... So again, is that an official thing?
As official as it can be absent an act of Congress:

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I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, find that the actions and policies of persons -- including persons who have asserted governmental authority in the Crimean region without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine -- that undermine democratic processes and institutions in Ukraine; threaten its peace, security, stability, sovereignty, and territorial integrity; and contribute to the misappropriation of its assets, constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.[bolding mine]
The list of persons is basically most of the Russian oligarchs and Putin's personal bank*

* Not personal as in the bank he personally uses, his own personal bank.
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Old 20 July 2018, 01:50 PM
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Oh, well, if Obama did it it's obviously something we should ignore.
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Old 20 July 2018, 02:02 PM
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Not that I like Putin, but (oh goody! the part where I get labelled a Putin supporter!) an executive order from one President is only as good as succeeding presidents allow it to be.

With that said, we should all be outraged by what Russia has done and is doing to Ukraine, to say nothing of its internal human rights issues.
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Old 20 July 2018, 03:42 PM
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(oh goody! the part where I get labelled a Putin supporter!) an executive order from one President is only as good as succeeding presidents allow it to be.
Why would that get you labeled a Putin supporter?

Anything that can be done by an executive order can be undone by an executive order -- isn't that just plain fact? Though I don't know whether Trump has bothered to do so, in this case.
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Old 20 July 2018, 05:52 PM
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Why would that get you labeled a Putin supporter?
Because I essentially began my post with, "Iím not a Putin support, but..."

Referencing a current topic of discussion starting here.
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Old 20 July 2018, 06:05 PM
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Ah, gotcha.
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