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Old 15 January 2013, 02:05 AM
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Default Young California Boy Found Guilty of Killing Neo Nazi Father

"An abused 12-year-old boy who shot his Neo-Nazi father dead while he was sleeping at their California home was found guilty Monday of second degree murder"

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/1...o-nazi-father/
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Old 15 January 2013, 02:17 AM
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More details from the LA Times:

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Public Defender Matthew Hardy focused on the boy's abusive home life, where gunplay and neo-Nazi gatherings were commonplace. Witnesses testified that Hall beat his son repeatedly, often in drunken or drug-addled rages.

Social workers responded to the Hall household more than 20 times. At the time of the shooting, the boy was a dependent of the court, an effort designed in part to shield him from further abuse, Hardy said.
The boy was 10 years old when he shot his father, in what might be considered justifiable homicide. He needs help. Yet I doubt he'll get the help he needs, seeing as how over 20 visits from social workers failed to help anyone.
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Old 15 January 2013, 02:36 AM
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Given that they went ahead and tried him for second degree murder (as an adult?), that seems sadly to have been a forgone conclusion.
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Old 15 January 2013, 02:38 AM
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How does the past visits by social workers effect the likelihood that he'll receive the help he needs now and in the future?
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Old 15 January 2013, 02:39 AM
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I would think that a 10-year-old will get some help. He also was not "found guilty" of anything. A petition was filed in juvenile court alleging that he committed the acts in question. The petition was "sustained."
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For a juvenile who is adjudicated and whose petition is sustained (tried and convicted) in juvenile court, the offender can be placed on probation in the community, placed in a foster care or group home, incarcerated in the county's juvenile ranch or camp, or sent to the Youth Authority as a ward of the state.
http://www.lao.ca.gov/1995/050195_ju...e/kkpart5.aspx

ETA: It says in the OP article that he was charged as a juvenile.
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Old 15 January 2013, 02:41 AM
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This has a little more information.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/v...ather-18208629

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The challenge now for the legal system is to find the best place where the boy can be rehabilitated. Prosecutors said it's likely the boy, who is not being identified by The Associated Press because of his age, will most likely be placed in state custody, making him the youngest person currently in the custody of California's corrections department.

The blonde-haired boy, who wears glasses, showed no emotion after the verdict was read.

"He knew it was coming," Hardy said. "He's focused on trying to get it over with. Go someplace where he can get some help. He wants to be a normal kid and wants to have a normal life."

Hardy said he hoped the boy would not be sent to a juvenile lockup but rather be placed in a private facility that offers therapy, medical treatment and schooling.

"I just don't want him warehoused some place," said Hardy, who plans to appeal the judge's verdict. A sentencing hearing was set for Feb. 15. The boy could be jailed until he is 23.

Prosecutor Michael Soccio spoke to the boy after the hearing finished and said he wanted the child to know that his office wasn't "against him as a person. We want him to get help."
A little more info on how he was tried:
http://ktla.com/2013/01/14/boy-12-co...o-nazi-father/

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In juvenile court, there is not a “guilty” or “not guilty,” but instead findings of “true” or “not true.”

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Old 15 January 2013, 02:48 AM
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If the prosecutor is going to support him getting help rather than going to lock-up, I would be extremely surprised if that recommendation were not followed. I would already be surprised if that didn't happen just based on his age. He may be old enough to be found responsible, but just barely by many standards.
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