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Comment: i have heard a story that a farmer that had a barn under some
high power lines and was able to steal electricity by having an induction coil under the roof. He was caught when the electric company noticed the drain in power. i have also seen pictures of fluorescent bulbs placed under the a high voltage power line with one end in the ground and are lit up by the induced energy. Is this possible? |
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Yes, it is possible. IN fact, my Dad's organization (BOR) prosecuted people for doing just that. It took a bit of work to get the conviction because the defense was., "We didn't touch those lines...".
Note, if you want to do this, it works best on the high voltage lines that come out of power plants and such. |
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IIRC, Mythbusters did this (it wasn't on one of their regular shows, but a re-cap show). They showed it was possible, but you would probably be trespassing and the set-up one would need would cost enough to not save you that much money.
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Given that lots of power lines use easements which is a permission to use the land and does not limit other uses of the land except for strict safety restrictions, trespass is not necessary to get to a position to install a coil. And depending on how much or little electricity you steal this way, the cost is low and the chance of detection also low. That is, light a 20 watt light and you probably won't be caught. Bigger and your chances increase. The power companies have very sophisticated measurments for the losses along a power line.
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One can easily test this by putting light tubes in the snow under a big power line. They will glow nicely. |
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This reminds me of one my physics teacher told us - apparently 'some chap' who lived near a military base in line of sight of their radar set up some coils in his attic, and generated electricity from the radar beam. They started noticing a strange shadow on the radar and that's how he was caught.
Sounds implausible, but any thoughts? |
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It's not that different from the coils they used to make ships invisible to German magnetic mines during WW2, detection wise. |
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... opens another tab to check ... Yep, still up. http://dsc.discovery.com/beyond/inde...ryId=210014191 , click on MythBusters, then scroll down to "Equipment Extras". Last edited by Koshka; 28 May 2007 at 01:36 AM. Reason: problem with the link -- should be OK now |
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I don't remember where I saw this, so chow me if I saw it here.
There was a marijuana growing operation where the owner basically built a house around a cavern entrance, and he grew pot in the cavern. It was very high tech, very well hidden, and very well executed. The thing that gave him away was that the power company noticed that there was an anomaly in that area drawing unauthorized power (lots of growning lamps plus rudamentary living quarters for the employees, including break room). They traced the source to the cave, and the guy got busted. |
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Electricity lines are used to transport electricity but radar just bounces the energy out. It doesn't seem like it is stealing exactly. I guess there is probably some offense regarding interfering with military activity - but as he didn't interact with them or go onto their property that also seems odd. I shouldn't have to not put things in the way of radar - that seems to be more like being required to actively assist than to not impede their work. Victoria J |
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Dad know you're giving this advice? |
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-Tim |
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They were able to show that there was a power loss from the lines that the person was using to power their house. So he was "stealing power" form the lines. |
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He's retired. Besides, it's not really "advice", right?
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One of my professors, an English fellow, described that the "letter of the law" had to be adapted when the national electric grid was developed in England. People would connect to the grid illegally, and would, cleverly, in their defence say that the exact number of electrons flowing *in* to their electrical load, would also flow *out*. Strictly speaking, nothing was being stolen. The term, I believe, that he used to describe the theft of electrical power, was "absconding with electricity".
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I know an electrical engineer who had a problem with a local television station. They erected one of their transmitter antennas very close to his property. He was unable to watch any television channels because of its power and proximity. It was also causing electrical problems with some appliances and other kinds of interference.
He complained to the station and they claimed that it was not their antenna causing the problem. So, he set up a "christmas tree" in his backyard with an induction coil and 100 watt bulbs. It lit up nicely, and within a couple of days, the television station employees came to apologise and set up some kind of shielding for him. |
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In the cases my Dad talks about, they did get them for stealing power. Something about getting electricity from the power company without a meter.
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