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Old 11 October 2018, 02:19 AM
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I also left them in the plastic bag which I probably shouldn't have done, as it likely retained moisture and speed up the rotting process.
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Old 11 October 2018, 06:32 AM
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I have had a couple of strawberries do this on the plant but I think I have been over watering them.. or watering them even though we have had some rain.

And speaking off...does anyone want some lettuce plants. I literally cant give them away.
Mum was going to take some to the place she is house sitting but I didn't get a chance to put them in the egg carton I transfer them in and she can't really bend down to do this. No one wanted them at the Dr Who fan club. I gave some to someone at Gym this week but I still have more.

I was going to take them to my volunteer job but I had to go to an appointment before and didn't want to carry them to the bus stop, catch the bus, carry them to the appointment, have appointment, carry them to the bus stop, change buses, carry them to the volunteer job (usually someone picks me up)

And now I won't be there for two weeks.

My lettuce keeps self sowing I have much more then I need.
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Old 11 October 2018, 01:34 PM
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WildaBeast, I've had fruit go from hard to rotten several times, but only when I was living in California. I don't know what was up with it, but I got the worst fruit I have ever had while I was in California, living just miles from where it came from. Maybe the crap fruit doesn't survive long enough to get here, on the East Coast?
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Old 11 October 2018, 02:51 PM
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Fruit picked overly green may never ripen properly.

Some species will never ripen properly if they were stored too cold somewhere along the line (though I doubt that's what's going on with either peaches or strawberries.)

Some fruits won't ripen any further after harvest -- this one does apply to strawberries, and to berries in general, at least the ones I know about. (A few other things, such as pears and I think bananas, must be picked green and ripened after harvest; but it needs to be the right degree of green, overly green still won't work.) Those green-tipped strawberries I see all the time in grocery stores will never get ripe.

Some varieties will never develop flavor because they were bred for size and/or shipping quality and not for flavor.

WildaBeast is right that fruit shouldn't be stored in plastic bags. Transfer to a paper bag, if you can't get them packed that way to start with.

Really humid conditions are likely to cause mold, either in the kitchen or, indeed, in the field. Moldy berries should be removed from plants in the field as soon as you notice them, if you can, because the mold will spread to the rest of the crop. -- Dasla, did yours look like this? That's one of the most common strawberry problems.

dfresh, my guess is that what you were getting in California was fruit from operations that were primarily aimed at the shipping market, but fruit that they thought wouldn't ship well got sold locally -- basically, they may have been selling their culls into the local market. If you could find a farm that was aiming to sell into the local market in the first place, you ought to be able to get much better fruit locally, not worse, partly because they might well be growing varieties that don't ship well but taste better, and partly because they might be leaving the fruit on the plant until it was closer to ripe.
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Old 11 October 2018, 05:22 PM
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There's also the issue of the spotted-winged drosophila, which is an unusual fruit fly that infests ripening fruit rather than rotten fruit like most fruit flies. The holes the maggots leave in the skin causes the fruit to rot before it ripens: it's become a problem in California and Oregon.
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Old 11 October 2018, 07:36 PM
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Unfortunately not limited to California and Oregon; we've been hearing about it here, too.
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Old 12 October 2018, 08:22 AM
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(A few other things, such as pears and I think bananas, must be picked green and ripened after harvest; but it needs to be the right degree of green, overly green still won't work.)
Bananas produce the ripening hormone eth something* gas. Putting a unripe piece of fruit in a paper bag with a ripe banana may help. Our neighbour in Townsville had a banana tree. He used to take the bunch of the plant and put it under the house to ripen. I used to think it was to protect them from flying foxes but maybe this was why. It may also have been to protect them from flying foxes.

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Really humid conditions are likely to cause mold, either in the kitchen or, indeed, in the field. Moldy berries should be removed from plants in the field as soon as you notice them, if you can, because the mold will spread to the rest of the crop. -- Dasla, did yours look like this? That's one of the most common strawberry problems.
Well Queensland is tropical/ sub-tropical so humid conditions are the norm but no it wasn't mold. They just went mushy. Some are also very small and I was leaving them on the plant. But yesterday I got a nice big one off. I may have to repot or at least fertilise a bit more.


*I can't remember the exact name and can't find my plant science text book.**


**It was ethylene not ethylene gas even though it is a gas. I am sure it was gas was in it's name when I was at university.

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Old 12 October 2018, 02:56 PM
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Bananas produce the ripening hormone eth something* gas. Putting a unripe piece of fruit in a paper bag with a ripe banana may help.
A number of ripening fruits (though not all of them) produce ethylene. Putting them in a closed paper bag with each other may help also.

Some vegetables (again not all of them) react badly to ethylene -- that's why most refrigerators have separate fruit and vegetable drawers.

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Well Queensland is tropical/ sub-tropical so humid conditions are the norm but no it wasn't mold. They just went mushy. Some are also very small and I was leaving them on the plant. But yesterday I got a nice big one off. I may have to repot or at least fertilise a bit more.
Pollination problems? Insect damage?

There are also other potential diseases. I've no idea what's common in Queensland, though.

In any case, I'd remove those tiny fruits even if you're not going to eat them; they'll eventually rot, and the rot's likely to spread to your larger fruit.
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Old 13 October 2018, 01:13 PM
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There are also other potential diseases. I've no idea what's common in Queensland, though.

In any case, I'd remove those tiny fruits even if you're not going to eat them; they'll eventually rot, and the rot's likely to spread to your larger fruit.

Well they do grow strawberries in this part of Queensland and they have been in the news lately. Due to an in shop needle contamination (which was by a troubled teen aged girl) and in the last day or so because of damage from hail. I will take them off though.
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Old 16 October 2018, 09:04 PM
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I went to a meeting at noon that advertised that lunch would be served, so I didn't bring any food from home today. Except there was apparently some kind of snafu with the catering and the food never showed up before the end of the meeting. They did say that whenever the food does arrive we can come by and get some, but now I'm really hungry, and still waiting for food.
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Old 20 October 2018, 02:55 AM
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I bought a bottle of white wine last night on impulse. Tonight I thought that wine would go well with what I made for dinner. Except I neglected to put it in the fridge last night, so it isn't chilled.
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Old 20 October 2018, 04:34 AM
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Pretend you are camping and roughing it.
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Old 22 October 2018, 08:49 AM
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I bought a bottle of white wine last night on impulse. Tonight I thought that wine would go well with what I made for dinner. Except I neglected to put it in the fridge last night, so it isn't chilled.
My Dad (who a long, long time ago was a drinks waiter) has put white wine in the freezer to chill quickly*. And I have a chiller section in my fridge (it is linked to the freezer) supposedly for chilling drinks quickly. I don't know how effective it is at that purpose though. I may have to do a comparison test one of these days if I can be bothered to do so**. Currently it is just a nuisance. I put things in there but it is walled off from the rest of the fridge and they take up space.

*Don't forget about it though.

**Get the same drink at room temp, put it in the freezer, fridge and chiller section for equal amount of time and then check the temperature. If I can ever be bothered buying a thermometer.
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Old 22 October 2018, 01:48 PM
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Wring a towel out in cold water, wrap it around the bottle, put it in the freezer that way. The water will conduct the cold better than air.
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Old 22 October 2018, 06:28 PM
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I think I remember hearing that you can also stick the wine glasses in the freezer if you just want a single glass.
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Old 23 October 2018, 03:37 AM
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I've used those reusable ice cubes too. Mostly I'll throw one in a glass of red to get it down from room temp to cellar temp, but a handful in a glass of warm white wine works too.
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Old 23 October 2018, 04:37 AM
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Wring a towel out in cold water, wrap it around the bottle, put it in the freezer that way. The water will conduct the cold better than air.
I think that will only work if the shelf is actually part of the cooling system of if the wet towel is touching something that is already cold and a good heat conductor. Otherwise the rate of cooling is still limited by the air conduction.
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Old 23 October 2018, 08:39 AM
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Wring a towel out in cold water, wrap it around the bottle, put it in the freezer that way. The water will conduct the cold better than air.
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I think I remember hearing that you can also stick the wine glasses in the freezer if you just want a single glass.
Yeah Dad has done both of these things.


Oh and the reusable ice cubes too.
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Old 23 October 2018, 03:09 PM
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I find the reusable ice cubes aren't really worth it, unless you use a lot of them. They don't stay cold all that long, IME.

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Old 23 October 2018, 04:48 PM
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I think that will only work if the shelf is actually part of the cooling system of if the wet towel is touching something that is already cold and a good heat conductor. Otherwise the rate of cooling is still limited by the air conduction.
I'm not sure it wouldn't slow things down. The glass is still the barrier the cold needs to penetrate and the towel might insulate it from the colder freezer air.
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