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Old 08 February 2019, 02:19 PM
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Default The Law VS Willy Wonka

Apparently discussing this subject is not new, but I stumbled onto it via that video.

I have a few issues with it:

First off, the contest is shown to affect the entire world, with tickets being found in America, Britain, Germany and explicitly not Argentina. That said, wherever Charlie lives is vaguely Western Europe (background details show a West German location, while the accents are all over the place and Charlie has a paper route. Also, “Slugworth” never specifies a currency when he confronts Charlie), although a newscast actually places it in America. I would in fact say it’s a bit hard to narrow the law down there when the net is so wide.

Second, while a point can be made that the river really should have been railed off (at least from the Oompa Loompa side), I have issue with the food safety part given that we see Wonka putting an old shoe into a formula and he has other bizarre processes for making candy. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Augustus is saved from the fudge room, but who’s to say that Wonka doesn’t have treatment processes for all the rest of the chocolate?

Third, shouldn’t the Wondrous Boat Ride be an issue? I’ve not seen it mentioned in this video or elsewhere.

Fourth, I’m not going to dispute the whole oral contract thing (or the contract they sign at the beginning of the tour, which definitely demonstrates “frippery”), but exactly how was Wonka going to test the gum? We never see any awkwardly shaped Oompa Loompas, so either they’re elsewhere in the factory or they healed. Either way, Wonka can’t exactly machine test something so subjective and actually needs to figure out what turns them into blueberries.

Fifth, I don’t know if the Eggdicators should have been walled off, and Veruca was an idiot...but why are there steps leading up to the platform? Even if the Salts don’t sustain injuries, she kinda had this one coming, though, having very deliberately stood on a thing that is not designed to take her.

Sixth, Mike explicitly survives the Wonkavision with no ill effect. We never learn his ultimate fate beyond a statement from Wonka, but the only issue is that he gets shrunk (whereas all the other kids get some form of suffering).

Finally, I have no clue on the labour laws. I don’t think there are any provisions for uplifting a country’s entire population and putting them in a factory, but they seem happy with the situation.
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Old 11 February 2019, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jusenkyo no Pikachu View Post

Apparently discussing this subject is not new, but I stumbled onto it via that video.

I have a few issues with it:

First off, ...
Jusenkyo no Pikachu, you did it again. What is "this subject" you want to discuss? I can't watch the video (I'm at work). I might be inclined to try and open the video at another time if the topic sounds interesting to me (you even mention it being connected to Germany somehow), but you give me no clue whatsoever what your post is about.

Please, don't do that.
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Old 11 February 2019, 03:11 PM
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It’s about legal issues that the movie Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory ignores.

The movie was filmed in Munich, with Charlie’s city showing German text in the background. Meanwhile, Charlie interacts with at least one Brit (Mr Turkentine), who parodies every primary school teacher ever (“I've just decided to switch our Friday schedule to Monday, which means that the test we take each Friday on what we learned during the week will now take place on Monday before we've learned it. But since today is Tuesday, it doesn't matter in the slightest.”). The idea was to create a vague city that could presumably be England (where the book is set).

Augustus hails from Germany, Veruca hails from England, Mike and Violet (and maybe Charlie and Wonka) hail from America IIRC, while the fifth ticket is “found” in Argentina. That’s four different countries on three continents. Remember, Wonka doesn’t license his brand, thanks to Slugworth, so the competition has to be worldwide.

Also, I have to wonder: is the movie known in Germany? I can only comment here with the assumption that it’s known everywhere. Here, it’s a childhood staple in book and movie form (but don’t bother with the Depp film. It’s closer to the text, but it doesn’t have the same charm).
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Old 11 February 2019, 04:31 PM
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I haven't watched the video.

It is entirely unremarkable for a work of fiction to ignore the law. Even more so for a work of fiction directed at children.

It might be somewhat interesting to discuss the legal issues, but it would be a very different work if it didn't ignore the law. Even legal dramas frequently ignore the law, by the way.
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Old 11 February 2019, 05:21 PM
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Since I watch Leonard French's "Lawful Masses" channel, I've seen this video crop up in my recommendations list more than a few times. I've not seen it because my first impression to the topic title is now what it was then: What's the point?

It would be like explaining how virtually every movie and TV cop would be fired at some point in their career if they actually did what they did as a real cop.

(*"You... you mean its not real?")
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Old 11 February 2019, 05:47 PM
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Oddly enough, I watched the video this morning, before I came across this thread.

The one criticism that stuck out to me as possibly being off base was the fizzy lifting drinks room. I assumed he was going to ding Wonka with another OSHA violation for the fan blades not being behind a protective screen. To me, it doesn't look like the fan vents anywhere - certainly not directly outside - and I don't know what in the room would be considered a pollutant in any case (the bubbles?) so I'm not sure why he brings in environmental law.
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