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Old 26 April 2018, 07:02 PM
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Oh OK. Thanks for straightening that out.
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Old 26 April 2018, 07:23 PM
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From the article DawnStorm just cited:

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“with ‘actual malice’–that is, with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard”
That reads to me as if the "malice" part doesn't mean that they needed to have done so specifically in order to harm someone in particular, but only that they did so knowing or having good reason to suspect that it wasn't true.

Anybody here know whether that's the standard interpretation? -- and yes, I don't know whether the 'public official' standard would be taken by courts to apply to people who aren't public officials. I suppose the claim might be made that, by publicly protesting, they've made themselves public figures; though that wouldn't apply to everyone that's being accused of being actors rather than victims.
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Old 26 April 2018, 07:59 PM
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Yes, that's the standard interpretation of 'actual malice'

From the site I linked:
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the following activities likely do not in themselves [Seaboe's emphasis] constitute what has come to be known as New York Times actual malice:
· ill will or intent to harm;
· extreme deviation from professional standards;
· publication of a story to increase circulation;
· carelessness;
· failure to investigate facts;
· contact a subject for comment; or correct or retract false statements after publication;
· reliance on a single biased source; and
· inclusion of edited quotations that do not materially change the meaning of the speaker's words.
Note: actual malice isn't always required for a statement to be slander or libel, but I'm not going to get into that nest of snakes.

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Old 14 December 2018, 04:34 PM
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https://patch.com/connecticut/newtow...1-ZvS5cfPBAkSE

WTF is wrong with some people? For the most part, today has been marked by an outpouring of love and support as the community remembers those killed six years ago. Whether a deranged "truther" or just a run-of-the-mill NFBSKhole, that some sick individual would even entertain this idea is disappointing.
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Old 14 December 2018, 08:06 PM
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Apparently it's part of a wave of bomb threats that were made against schools yesterday and today, according to the news. They're saying that so far, none of them are considered credible.
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Old 14 December 2018, 08:26 PM
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Nevertheless, the school system (wisely, IMO) sent everyone home while police investigated. No need to pile on to the traumatic associations for the SH faculty and staff, or the families.
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Old 14 December 2018, 11:28 PM
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Yeah, the schools around here that got the threat also sent everyone home.
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Old 15 December 2018, 04:43 AM
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According to police, the Sandy Hook threat (which was phoned in) was apparently not related to the wave of emailed threats (of which Newtown also received 2), but was an independent hoax. Don't know if they have any leads.
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Old 16 December 2018, 04:48 AM
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I actually find myself longing for the 90s when school shootings were blamed on rap music and violent video games. It was wrong—we need some damn gun regulations—but at least, the gun nuts weren’t brutally attacking victims and accusing them of being Crisis Actors as part of some kind of Islamocommiefascist Jade Helm Deep State Conspiracy to take away everyone’s guns!!!!
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And Facebook didn't exist(or wasn't as popular as it is now), so we didn't have to read stuff like "Instead of arming teachers with guns, maybe we should arm parents with belts and switches. It worked for our generation!"
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Old 17 December 2018, 01:52 AM
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Gene Roddenberry felt advances in technology would lead to better communication, and thus smooth over long-standing religious/ethnic hatreds. Unfortunately it never occurred to him that all the worst people would have as much access to this tech as the good people.
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I actually find myself longing for the 90s when school shootings were blamed on rap music and violent video games. It was wrong—we need some damn gun regulations—but at least, the gun nuts weren’t brutally attacking victims and accusing them of being Crisis Actors as part of some kind of Islamocommiefascist Jade Helm Deep State Conspiracy to take away everyone’s guns!!!!
I think you forgot ZOG and the evil snowflake NPC cuck millennials that watch Murphy Brown and the current season of Doctor Who.
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Old 12 January 2019, 06:53 AM
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Sandy Hook conspiracy theorist Alex Jones must grant the families of seven victims killed in the school massacre full access to his web site’s marketing and financial documents.

The Friday morning ruling by Connecticut State Superior Court Judge Barbara Bellis was quickly hailed by the plaintiffs in a lawsuit against Jones, who has asserted in the past that the execution of 26 students and faculty members was a scam.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/co...z&ocid=U007DHP

About freaking time.
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Old 12 January 2019, 08:33 AM
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Gene Roddenberry felt advances in technology would lead to better communication, and thus smooth over long-standing religious/ethnic hatreds. Unfortunately it never occurred to him that all the worst people would have as much access to this tech as the good people.
I saw Stephen Fry make a similar comment within the last year or so. False hopes were raised with the internet.
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I saw Stephen Fry make a similar comment within the last year or so. False hopes were raised with the internet.
Technology doesn't stop people from being bastards, it just makes being a bastard more efficient.
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The Babel fish is small, yellow, leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier, but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. (...) Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.
The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, pulished 1979. We had been warned.
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