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Old 20 September 2010, 09:00 AM
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Royalty Dress code for meeting the Pope

Comment: As you may be aware, the Pope is currently visiting the UK. I've run into
a number of heated discussions, based around the claim "the Queen has to
wear black when she meets him as a sign of respect".

This is then subdivided into (at least) two further claims: "women have to
wear black when they meet the Pope" and "non-Catholic heads of state have
to wear black when they meet the Pope".

(Example 1:
http://www.omniblog.co.uk/blogs/2010...are-important/ )

(Example 2:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...n-2072954.html )

There is also at least one blogger who says it's a load of bollocks:
http://religionlaw.blogspot.com/2010...wore-blue.html

Could you please clear this up? There are many excellent reasons for
complaining about a Papal visit without resorting to one that may not be
valid...
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Old 20 September 2010, 09:13 AM
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As you are obviously not aware dear commenter, the Pope flew back to The Vatican four days ago.

Anyway here's the Queen meeting with Pope John Paul II dressed in blue. I'm assuming by "The Pope" the commenter is referring to any holder of the office of Pope, not just the current one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MKSRs9hfOs

ETA And here's the Queen meeting the current Pope in a sort of slightly blue off-white affair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMeKapjGP1o

So either Queen Elizabeth II has made a couple of horrible faux pas or the comment is nonsense.

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Old 20 September 2010, 09:25 AM
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Blue? I'd call that green.
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Old 20 September 2010, 09:29 AM
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She only wears black when she meets the Pope at the Vatican. Here is a picture from her most recent trip there, in 2000. Here's another, from 1980. Catholic queens, on the other hand, get to wear white.

He doesn't bring a dress code with him when he travels to impose on his host. That would be tacky and rude.
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Old 20 September 2010, 09:29 AM
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Whatever. You probably paid more for your monitor than I did.
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Old 25 September 2010, 02:38 PM
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With all the crowds that a papal visit draws, is someone really going to notice what you're wearing? Unless your attire is totally outlandish, I would think that nearly nobody would give a hoot that you are in violation of a supposed dress code.
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Old 25 September 2010, 03:07 PM
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I think the dress code question only applies to the queen... or female heads of state? But if you're in front of thousands of people, all looking at you, then I think they might notice what you're wearing.
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Should she choose to wear rainbow suspenders instead, I am not sure what the pope could do about it.
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Old 25 September 2010, 03:17 PM
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I suspect a dignitary would intervene before such a meeting took place.
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Should she choose to wear rainbow suspenders instead, I am not sure what the pope could do about it.
Say "Nanu Nanu" in a loud, nasal voice and offer her the Orkian greeting gesture?
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Should she choose to wear rainbow suspenders instead, I am not sure what the pope could do about it.
Depends...

Are you using the US definition or the UK one. One would look really silly. The onther I don't really want to try to imagine.
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Old 28 September 2010, 04:23 PM
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*after some quick Googling* I'm really hoping she's using the US definition. I can't imagine the circumstances where the Pope (or his officials) would know (or need to know) about the Queen's UK-definition suspenders.

(For non-UKers, suspenders are a garter belt).
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"Good morning, your Holiness."

"Good morning, your Majesty."

"I love your shoes."

"Oh, these old things?"
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