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Old 09 December 2007, 01:35 PM
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This was posted (by a Christian) on one of my boards yesterday. It was in a thread about "the fat man who takes all the credit" and why you shouldn't let your children know the Santa lie. (chow if needed)

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Yes, Virginia, There Is A Savior
By Debra Marie Ferguson

This season brings out all the carolers singing
The plastic Kris Kringles, the reindeer bells jingling
The pine scented snow in the aerosol cans
The gift wrap, the ribbon, and Christmas tree stands

But, does anyone ponder what all this is worth?
When we've all but practically wiped out His birth?
We're blinded by Santas and stockings and elves
The garland, the tinsel, and toys on the shelves

We're decking the halls, the walls and the trees
Our kids write to Santa, and hope...he is pleased?
Being good all year round because....Santa sees all?
Making Saint Nick the Savior, and Jesus so small

Let all who forget, now think on these things
The price that He paid versus what Santa brings
Jesus said, let the little ones come unto me
But first thing Christmas morning, they run for the tree!

If all the worlds Christians would just dare to start
Telling children Saint Nick was a man with a heart
Full of love for all people, and love for the Lord
That's what made him admired and greatly adored!

But after he died, well, we know all the rest
They dug up his memory and changed his address
Created an image that never would die
One that made children behave and not cry

One that had power to get them to bed
With visions of Christmas rewards in their head
They're told to remember that Santa keeps track!
Incentives for Santa to bring a big sack!

Whoever dreamed up all these things I've no doubt
Took great pains to make sure that they left Jesus out!
No, we can't blame a child for what they've been taught
Though its something each parent should give special thought

That Christmas would mean more than reindeer and gifts
And the same goes for Easter Eggs, bunnies and Chicks
If at Easter and Christmas, we told the true story
Stopped breaking his heart and gave God all the glory

The most wonderful present a parent can give?
Is to share with their children that Jesus did live
That He's not just a fable, a storybook lie
He came to give life, and for that He would die

The most precious of gifts, that a parent receives?
Is the moment they're sure, that their child believes
That three short days later he rose from the dead
And He's coming again, because that's what He said!

So let all the believers now gather to sing
Happy Birthday to Jesus, the King of All Kings!
And be freed from the bonds of traditional behavior
And start telling Virginia, yes...., there IS a Savior!
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Old 09 December 2007, 01:44 PM
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And the same goes for Easter Eggs, bunnies and Chicks
Easter Chicks? Like on page 3 of certain newspapers?

How horribly sexist.
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Old 09 December 2007, 07:02 PM
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Easter Chicks? Like on page 3 of certain newspapers?

How horribly sexist.
Clearly the author means Jack Chicks, such as the man who does the cartoons. It is very bad to worship him.

Sister "worship true idols instead!" Ray
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Old 09 December 2007, 08:59 PM
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Poor Santa seems to have become a scapegoat for the commercialization and secularization of Christmas. Instead of making him out to be a baddie, I wish the people who send stuff like this would try harder to tell the story of the historical Bishop of Myra, a.k.a. St. Nicholas. The story that he tossed bags of gold into the house of a man who was ready to force his daughters into prostitution out of financial desperation is much more uplifting than any of this glurge.
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Old 09 December 2007, 09:00 PM
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Whoever dreamed up all these things I've no doubt
Took great pains to make sure that they left Jesus out!
For the love of Pete....!
Does this mean when Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol he was thinking, "heh heh, I'll make sure Jesus isn't a big player in this story because I hate Christians..."
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Old 09 December 2007, 09:05 PM
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Blinded by the Claus...

Dawn--cut loose like a deuce--Storm
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Old 26 December 2007, 06:39 PM
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Easter Chicks? Like on page 3 of certain newspapers?

How horribly sexist.
Any chance that one of them rhymes with 'Pogonto Bun'?
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Old 26 December 2007, 11:09 PM
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Incentives for Santa to bring a big sack!
Can't say I ever contemplated the size of Santa's sack...
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Old 27 December 2007, 01:17 AM
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Easter Chicks? Like on page 3 of certain newspapers?

How horribly sexist.
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Any chance that one of them rhymes with 'Pogonto Bun'?
Jeez, that took a while. Toronto Sun?

"Log onto Fun" and its ilk seemed bizarre names, but really good web addresses for large breasted Canadian models.
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Old 27 December 2007, 11:07 PM
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Can't say I ever contemplated the size of Santa's sack...
Good to see someone is equally warped.
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Old 28 December 2007, 12:03 PM
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Does this mean when Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol he was thinking, "heh heh, I'll make sure Jesus isn't a big player in this story because I hate Christians..."
Given that it takes places nearly 2000 years after his time, it would be odd if he did feature. What's wrong with the spirit of Christmas?
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Old 28 December 2007, 01:09 PM
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Any chance that one of them rhymes with 'Pogonto Bun'?
Not anymore.

That publication no longer has its scantily clad women on page 3.
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Old 28 December 2007, 01:44 PM
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Aargh! All this bringing "Jesus" into the holdiday season is just a continuation of the War against Yule!
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Old 28 December 2007, 08:55 PM
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Not anymore.

That publication no longer has its scantily clad women on page 3.
What? The world has gone to hell in a handcart since I left the self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe! When did this happen? Why has there not been a Royal Commission, or at least a public inquiry?

Used to be the Sun was good for 3 things: sports, comics and the Sunshine Girl (or Boy, if you were so inclined, but they usually hid him near the back). Next you'll be telling me they don't run Calvin and Hobbes any more! Do they at least still plan the Leafs' Stanley Cup parade after every win and call for mass firings after every loss?

ETA: I just parsed your post more carefully (after the red haze in front of my eyes had dissipated) and realized that it is possible that the Sunshine Girl still exists, but not on Page 3. Is this so?
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One that had power to get them to bed
With visions of Christmas rewards in their head
They're told to remember that Santa keeps track!
Incentives for Santa to bring a big sack!
You know, there are reasons to tell kids about Santa Claus other than greed-induced compliance...
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