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Old 27 February 2016, 08:58 PM
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Bang Head Model Cheryl Tiegs calls plus-size SI swimsuit cover 'unhealthy'

Former top model Cheryl Tiegs has thrown cold water all over the enthusiasm about Sports Illustrated's first plus-size swimsuit issue cover model.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/26/living...eat/index.html
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Old 27 February 2016, 09:13 PM
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I know there is so-called vanity sizing but even with that this is utterly ridiculous:

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She pointed out that most of the "Ellen" show's audience would qualify for plus-size modeling, in which sizes rage from 8 to 16/18.
I can accept that size 16-18 are plus sizes (even though they are sizes that a whole helluva lot of women wear) but size 8? Seriously? Most women I know would love to be a size 8 and would feel that they were perfectly fit and as thin as they are ever likely to get, or want to be for that matter.
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Old 27 February 2016, 09:53 PM
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Only in the fashion world. But yes, in that industry they consider anything above an 8 "plus sized." The real story about this SI cover is that they used a real world plus sized model instead of a very thin woman with large breasts.

But that's probably what Tiegs is complaining about.
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"I don't like that we're talking about full-figured women, because it's glamorizing them, because your waist should be smaller than 35 (inches)," Tiegs -- herself a two-time SI cover model -- said Wednesday at the 13th annual Global Green USA Pre-Oscar Party. "That's what Dr. Oz said, and I'm sticking to it."
Oh well if Dr. Oz said it than........


Also she says that your waist should be smaller than 35 inches but never mentions a height. A 35 inch waist for a 5' tall person isn't quite the same on a 6' person.
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Old 28 February 2016, 12:32 AM
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And I'm going to be the killjoy who links to the Last Week Tonight video regarding the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue. Given that, like the video says, Internet porn has made it so people can see all the boobs you want for free in the privacy of your own home, you wonder really why the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue is still a thing? About all they've got going for them is controversy and eventually they'll run out of that. Heck, even Playboy was eventually forced to admit that they couldn't bank on the selling power of boobies thanks to the Internet
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Old 28 February 2016, 02:27 AM
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Oh well if Dr. Oz said it than........


There you go! Dr. Oz said it--case closed.
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Old 28 February 2016, 05:11 PM
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Dr. Oz merely repeated what he has read.

"For women, a waist measurement of 35 inches (89 centimeters) or more indicates an unhealthy concentration of belly fat and a greater risk of problems such as heart disease, high blood pressure and type 2 diabetes. For men, a waist measurement of 40 inches (102 centimeters) or more is considered cause for concern."
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Old 28 February 2016, 05:58 PM
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I am so over people who pretend this is about concern over fat peoples' health.
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Old 28 February 2016, 09:52 PM
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Healthy!
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Old 28 February 2016, 10:03 PM
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So what is the SI model's waist measurement? Sounds like "size" is a basically meaningless term in women's clothing. In a man, "waist" usually actually means hips (since the number is usually used to fit pants) but in women "waist" is a heck of a lot higher on the torso, well above the top of the hip bones.
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Old 28 February 2016, 11:06 PM
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According to this page, it is 30 inches. It's a drop down under "stats".
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looking at the cover -- i do not see a Plus sized model. she looks fit and firm ... i would not see this and think there was a problem\
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And yet, NDL, for many modeling assignments she would be rejected as too large. "Plus Sized" for modeling does not mean fat, even though the 'Plus Sized' racks in women's wear are generally made for women without flat bellies. In that regard, there is a comparison to men's sizing: S, M, and L for men are for trim men with different frame sizes, but when you start adding the X's before the L, you are generally reaching the guys with more substantial bellies.

P.S. I knew a woman who made extra money as a 'plus-size' model for local ads. She was eye-catchingly beautiful and fit and trim. For size 14s and 16s, which she would model, they had to pin about 1/3 of the material behind her. She had a normal frame - i.e. shoulders, hips, and thighs - so she could not be hired for the single-digit clothing sizes - even though that is the size she would wear IRL.

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According to this page, it is 30 inches. It's a drop down under "stats".
Ok so by Tiegs standards what is the problem then? With a waist of 30 inches she is well below her cutoff line for what makes a model. Somehow I suspect Tiegs really meant to say a waist of 17 inches .
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Default Plus size models are unhealthy, says Edwina Currie

Former MP Edwina Currie has said size 14 model Ashley Graham looks "unhealthy" and that the fashion industry is encouraging people to become obese.

Speaking on BBC Breakfast she said encouraging obesity was just as dangerous as encouraging people to be size zero.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35681455
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I got into a big online fight with a few people on another message board because they insisted that anyone (well they meant any woman) who weighed more than 160 lbs was grossly overweight . No exceptions. In their world no woman apparently is taller than about 5'5 so there's that. But even setting aside tying weight with height this is still an incredibly annoying argument. What was even dumber was the insistence that it's only "nowadays" that it's ok to be this weight or more. Oh really? We are living in an era when there is no pressure on women to be unrealistically thin? I must have missed the memo on that one.
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And clearly depicting large women as attractive is a new phenomenon, too.
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I guess some people won't be happy until every woman over a certain size is constantly followed by a slave constantly repeating, "Remember, thou art fat. Remember, thou art fat."
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And sadly we've also got people insisting the very thin (in their eyes) need to be followed by a slave constantly muttering. "Eat a sandwich, eat a sandwich."

I tell you it's hard enough raising girls in this culture but I don't envy any parent of a girl today with the barrage of insults disguised as information coming at women from both sides of the spectrum where daring to be a few pounds over or under some ideal weight point must mean you have an eating disorder or are in denial about your skeletal body or your grossly obese self .
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And even worse, there are many women and girls that get both slaves.
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