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Old 12 March 2016, 08:50 AM
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Reporter Reporter Files Complaint After Alleged Assault by Trump Campaign Manager

(^ Note: I had to shorten the title to get it to fit. The full title is "Reporter Michelle Fields Files Complaint After Alleged Assault by Trump Campaign Manager.")

http://www.newsweek.com/michelle-fie...battery-436079
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Police in Jupiter, Florida, said on Friday that they are investigating an alleged battery of Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields that occurred at a Donald Trump rally on Tuesday night.

Fields has accused Trump's campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, of grabbing her arm and pulling her to the ground while she was questioning the GOP front-runner about affirmative action. Fields alleges that Lewandowski grabbed her arm and forcibly moved her out of Trump's path before the candidate left a press conference at a rally in Jupiter.

"Someone…grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken," Fields wrote on Thursday. "The Washington Post's Ben Terris immediately remarked that it was Trump's campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, who aggressively tried to pull me to the ground. I quickly turned around and saw Lewandowski and Trump exiting the building together. No apology. No explanation for why he did this."
This was followed by denials from Donald Trump. In addition, despite the fact that the Washington Post reporter backed her up her employer, Breibart did not not.

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Asked about Fields's allegation while speaking with reporters after Thursday night's GOP debate in Miami, Trump suggested she "made the story up."

At least one of Fields's colleagues seemed to agree with the Trump camp on what happened. Patrick Howley, another reporter for Breitbart, questioned Fields's story on Twitter, saying, "I think the reporter whose shoulder allegedly got grabbed should release video of the incident," Howley tweeted. Breitbart suspended Howley on Thursday "indefinitely" over his tweets, calling them "inappropriate."

But on Friday, Breitbart continued to push back against its own reporter's claim. It was not Lewandowski who touched Fields but a security official, according to a report by Joel Pollak, also of Breitbart.
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"Even Breitbart's Corporate Spokesman Won't Stand Behind Them for Selling Out Michelle Fields" Gawker 10 March 2016:
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Kurt Bardella, a spokesman for the far-right news organization Breitbart, resigned today amid a controversy over the company's treatment of staff reporter Michelle Fields. When asked if he resigned because he disagreed with the way the company handled the Fields situation, Bardella told BuzzFeed "It would be fair for you to say that."

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"What I personally feel is one thing, but as someone who's supposed to represent them at the public-facing side of this, I was at the point where I couldn't give 100% of myself and best thing to do was to let them know that," Bardella told BuzzFeed of his decision to quit.

Bardella also referenced an "escalating cycle of behavior" at Trump events on Twitter.
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Old 15 March 2016, 07:03 AM
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Vanishing Breitbart's Michelle Fields and Three Others Resign Over Trump Incident

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Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields has resigned from the conservative news site over its response to her alleged assault by Donald Trump's campaign manager.

Three of her colleagues also resigned from Breitbart: editor-at-large Ben Shapiro, national security reporter Jordan Schachtel and Jarrett Stepman, an editor.

In his departing statement on Sunday, Shapiro said the site should be "ashamed" of "their treatment" of Fields, whose allegations of assault came amid escalating violence in and around Trump campaign events.
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Old 15 March 2016, 07:15 AM
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I'm kind of torn on this one. On one hand it sucks that anybody would be treated this way and than stabbed in the back by their employer just because the employer is a Trump supporting organization with no ethics.

On the other hand she and those others who resigned in protest were voluntarily working for Breitbart. Taking a principled stand against them because they turned on you is like being member of the mob and taking a principled stand against them because they turned on you.
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Old 15 March 2016, 07:41 AM
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You don't think that it's reasonable to expect that your employer provide a safe working environment and not throw you under the bus due to their political activism?
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Old 15 March 2016, 09:36 AM
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I think he's saying that it's unreasonable to expect the Breitbart organization to be reasonable. Or ethical.
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Old 15 March 2016, 12:42 PM
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I think he's saying that it's unreasonable to expect the Breitbart organization to be reasonable. Or ethical.
That, right there. If you worked for them you knew what a vile, hateful unethical organization they are. If you were one of their "reporters" you were a part of that hate machine, just directed at other people. I can't help but feel a sense of irony to now hear these same people now act "shocked, shocked that gambling is going on in this establishment."
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Donald Trump's Campaign Manager Corey Lewandowski was charged with simple battery in Florida on Tuesday, following an incident in March when he allegedly grabbed a female reporter's arm.
http://mashable.com/2016/03/29/corey...i#V4R_NVVl6OqF
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Old 29 March 2016, 10:28 PM
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Default Lawyer for Trump's campaign manager once bit a stripper and drew blood

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One of them, Kendall Coffey, is a former U.S. attorney who resigned after biting a stripper.

http://mashable.com/2016/03/29/trump...c#WXlyMWWR1Oqj
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Old 30 March 2016, 08:32 AM
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But the Jupiter Police Department released surveillance footage that appeared to directly contradict Lewandowski's claims.

In the footage, Lewandowski can be seen grabbing Fields' arm.
This video is a lot clearer than the one I saw two weeks ago. Just incredible. First Trump and Lewandowski said nothing happened and Michelle Fields had made it up and then they said it was someone else. Now that it's on tape Trump is now claiming to be the real victim.
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That, right there. If you worked for them you knew what a vile, hateful unethical organization they are. If you were one of their "reporters" you were a part of that hate machine, just directed at other people. I can't help but feel a sense of irony to now hear these same people now act "shocked, shocked that gambling is going on in this establishment."
I have to admit to being a bit naive here. Well I've never been a fan of Breibart or their reports (to put it mildly) I thought they would, at a minimum, support their reporters. Not only did they not do that they went as far as to gaslight one of them. I guess I underestimated how low they would go.

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Old 30 March 2016, 02:18 PM
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One of the most telling things for me in Trump's response (heard this morning on NPR) was that he started to dismissively downplay the accusations by saying "Women... you know?" before apparently thinking better of it and switching tactics. Also, the "wouldn't you scream if you were being attacked" defense is pretty pathetic. (I'm paraphrasing as best I can from my memory of the audio clips; I'm unable to access the audio right now.)
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Old 30 March 2016, 02:34 PM
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It's pathetic, and it has a nasty historical association with rape denial.
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Old 30 March 2016, 04:09 PM
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It's pathetic, and it has a nasty historical association with rape denial.
Exactly. Plus characters for length.
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Old 30 March 2016, 05:10 PM
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And her former employer can suck wind. They did not believe her, and now there is video proof they are fools.
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Old 30 March 2016, 05:23 PM
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Found the audio - from today's NPR Morning Edition:



Relevant part begins around 1:53.
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Old 30 March 2016, 05:32 PM
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So many people are saying the tapes don't show battery, and I think it's the angle and speed, but I am seeing lots of people other than Trump defending the campaign manager.
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Old 30 March 2016, 06:02 PM
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In Florida, non-felony battery (I assume that "simple" battery is non-felony battery) happened as soon as he intentionally touched her.

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(1)(a) The offense of battery occurs when a person:
1. Actually and intentionally touches or strikes another person against the will of the other; or
2. Intentionally causes bodily harm to another person.
I would guess that it is not so easy to commit battery in practice as the wording of the law would suggest. For example, the wording would make it battery to tap someone on their shoulder to tell them they dropped their wallet. But given how she quickly reversed direction and that she appeared to have bruises from the grab, it was more than a tap on the shoulder.
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Old 30 March 2016, 07:37 PM
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Apparently for a lot of people battery has to mean beaten to a bloody pulp or it doesn't count. How unsurprised am I to learn that many of those people are Trump supporters?
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In Florida, non-felony battery (I assume that "simple" battery is non-felony battery) happened as soon as he intentionally touched her.



I would guess that it is not so easy to commit battery in practice as the wording of the law would suggest. For example, the wording would make it battery to tap someone on their shoulder to tell them they dropped their wallet. But given how she quickly reversed direction and that she appeared to have bruises from the grab, it was more than a tap on the shoulder.
From what I can tell, it really is very easy to commit battery in Florida. (And simple battery is non-aggravated battery. I think felony battery is still simple, but I'm not sure.)

But, for your example it would not be battery because apparently there is a defense that negates intent where the person who touches does so to render assistance.

There's also a defense of others defense which is, I bet, what will be raised in light of Trump's cries that the reporter was going to touch him, and "what's in her hand?!" Well, looking at it some more maybe not, because it probably wouldn't apply (because it wouldn't be reasonable to think she was about to use "unlawful force" against Trump. But I really don't know FL law, so who knows). But I still wouldn't really be surprised if they float it as him protecting Trump.

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Old 30 March 2016, 10:43 PM
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I thought there might have been something that like but didn't want to speculate too hard on the law.

Not only could she have had something in her hand, she could have been bleeding out her whatever. *shudders*
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Old 31 March 2016, 04:35 AM
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Or worse...she might have been asking the Donald where the ladies' restroom was. Ugh! He'd have to actually contemplate the "disgusting" things she might be doing in there.
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