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Old 15 December 2016, 12:05 PM
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While many people were worried about whether there would be a court-packing plan for the NC Supreme Court (about to have a majority of Democratic members) in the special session on disaster relief that NC Governor Pat McCrory had called, it seems that NC GOP legislative leaders had a different trick up their sleeve: they have called a special session to start now at the end of the session called by the governor, and the plan seems to be to propose measures to cut the power of the incoming Democratic governor Roy Cooper.

https://electionlawblog.org/?p=89974


Thought McCrory losing was the end of it? Nope... this is just the beginning...
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Old 16 December 2016, 12:59 AM
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The North Carolina General Assembly is currently debating a series of Republican-sponsored laws designed to strip power from the newly progressive governor and state Supreme Court. If passed, these measures would have far-reaching effects on the state, significantly curtailing judicial independence, loosening environmental standards, diminishing the quality of public education, and preserving unlawful voter suppression laws. However, the public was not able to witness the debate over this de facto legislative coup on Thursday afternoon after the Assembly decided to close the House and Senate galleries and arrest a group of protesters, as well as a reporter.
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Old 16 December 2016, 01:14 AM
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Wow, talk about sore losers.
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Old 16 December 2016, 07:47 PM
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North Carolina Republican Gov. Pat McCrory has quickly signed into law a GOP-backed bill that would strip the incoming Democratic governor of some of his powers.

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Old 16 December 2016, 10:47 PM
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Oy....will it never stop being projection with the GOP? Seems a common characteristic of fascist organization: accuse your enemies of crimes you yourself are committing. Maybe it's nice for you, going through life assuming everyone is just as horrible as you, but it sucks for everyone else.
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Old 28 December 2016, 12:13 AM
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but thought someone would start one based on this article. When they didn't, I decided to resurrect this one, because the article is very much related: According to the Electoral Integrity Project, North Carolina no longer qualifies as a democracy.
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On Friday, a North Carolina state court ruled that most of the Republican-dominated legislature’s December power grab—which stripped authority from the incoming Democratic governor—violated the state constitution. The three-judge panel found that the legislature’s attempt to deny Gov. Roy Cooper control over the state election board violated the constitutional separation of powers, as did efforts to stack his administration with holdovers appointed by former Republican Gov. Pat McCrory. Presuming Republicans appeal, they face long odds at the liberal-leaning state Supreme Court, which previously blocked the election-board takeover.
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Old 19 March 2017, 10:16 PM
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It is good to see that the courts still say that hey, you can't change the rules just cause your side lost. Yay for democracy.
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Old 20 March 2017, 12:38 AM
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It is kind of sad that they have to say that and it isn't just, y'know, a basic fact agreed upon by everyone like the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Anyone want to try to pinpoint when the GOP basically became a doomsday cult? I'm wondering if it can be pinned on Richard Nixon, though he put forth some goddanged effort into his villainy.
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Old 20 March 2017, 03:46 AM
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I would pin it in 2001, when Dick Cheney had GWB's ear more than was reasonable and everybody was in freakout mode. There were signs before that but I feel like it got mainstreamed then..
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I would say that it started during the Clinton presidency when the Republican strategy moved from finding compromise and middle ground and more about backbiting and obstructionism to the Democrats.
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Old 20 March 2017, 02:32 PM
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I would pin it in 2001, when Dick Cheney had GWB's ear more than was reasonable and everybody was in freakout mode. There were signs before that but I feel like it got mainstreamed then..
I think the whole country went a bit crazy after 9/11. The GOP just stayed there when the rest of us cooled down and tried to move on.
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I would say that it started during the Clinton presidency when the Republican strategy moved from finding compromise and middle ground and more about backbiting and obstructionism to the Democrats.
The "Contract with America" stuff? Perhaps. But I have always imagined that without 9/11 the Republicans wouldn't have much room to continue being that way, and it would have been a flash-in-the-historical pan, something like McCarthyism.

I may well not be making sense.
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Old 20 March 2017, 09:59 PM
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I got what you were saying.
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The "Contract with America" stuff? Perhaps. But I have always imagined that without 9/11 the Republicans wouldn't have much room to continue being that way, and it would have been a flash-in-the-historical pan, something like McCarthyism.
I was thinking more of the "continuously investigate one or more of the Clintons for whatever you can dream up without finding much of anything" stuff. The Republicans suffered little to no backlash for doing that instead of working on issues. And while 9/11 certainly helped them maintain, they had enough power before that to keep most of their members in Congress and to get a President who was probably the least qualified person to be President before now.
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The "Contract on America" stuff?
There you go Avril, fixed that for ya.
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Old 21 March 2017, 12:07 AM
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I think it actually sort of snuck up on them, bit by bit, and then was kicked into overdrive by the Tea Party surge in the 2010 midterms.

-- though they were already pretty close by the time, shortly after Obama got elected, somebody* well up in the party hierarchy announced that it would be the party's policy to make sure Obama didn't succeed, in wording that made it clear they were willing to screw up the country in an attempt to prevent Obama's re-election; and there was no outcry of objection from the rest of the Republicans.


*I don't, unfortunately, remember who; or remember the exact wording; which makes it hard to google the quote and confirm (or possibly refute) my memory. I remember being pretty shocked by it at the time, though -- not so much shocked that somebody had said it, but that none of the rest of the Republican senators and representatives objected, at least not loudly enough to make the news. I'm pretty sure it was a senator or House member, and somebody who was in a relative position of power among them.
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Old 21 March 2017, 12:30 AM
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Mitch McConnell, IIRC.
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Old 21 March 2017, 02:56 AM
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Thanks, Avril.

http://www.politico.com/story/2010/1...-pledge-044311

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Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan to National Journal: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”
-- what I did have wrong was when he said it: 2010, right after the midterms; not early 2009.
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"Snuck up on them" makes it sound as if they didn't welcome it with open arms.
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