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Old 06 June 2017, 01:50 AM
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One huge advantage the boomers had versus today's kids is the difference in the cost of college. Many boomers went to college nearly for free, at least tuition was often negligible. My total undergraduate "tuition" in California from '76-'80 was about $500. That is the total for four years. Today the same school's 4 year tuition is about $30,000.
This is so very true. The cost of tuition at Michigan State, where I went to school, was five times more expensive by the time my daughter graduated from high school. In the 12 years since she graduated it has doubled in cost, making it 10 times what I paid.

College can still be affordable, but it requires making choices based on cost of attendance. Choices that weren't so critical for my generation. As a result young people today often get bad advice based on the experiences of their parents.
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Old 06 June 2017, 10:54 AM
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When I was in high school, the guidance counselors encouraged us (or at least me, but I imagine I wasn't the only one) to go wherever we wanted/wherever we got in, and just to take out loans if we needed them. Loans were made out to be no big deal.

I don't have regrets about where I went for undergrad, but the enormous debt that I am still on no path to paying off is disheartening whenever I think too much about it. And I have relatively little debt compared to other people who went to more expensive schools as opposed to my "bargain" of a state school.
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Old 06 June 2017, 01:10 PM
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When I was in high school, the guidance counselors encouraged us (or at least me, but I imagine I wasn't the only one) to go wherever we wanted/wherever we got in, and just to take out loans if we needed them. Loans were made out to be no big deal.
Wasn't encouraged to take loans, but then where I grew up, just about everyone's parents could cover the costs of state tuition (or take out loans themselves) if it came down to it. College was something mom and dad paid for. But of course I could regale you with stories of being a self made man who went through college on an NROTC scholarship in exchange for military service; there'd be just enough truth to it to be convincing.

And so could anyone: RichardM gives what seems to be a fairly honest account of attending college circa 1970 coming from a middle class family. A less honest rendition of the story that would have just enough truth to it to be dangerous would be "I worked through college to pay the bills and the hardest day of my life was the day they told me I was 4F: I wanted so hard to serve my country. It's just a matter of perseverance, though: I kept a stiff upper lip and when the good lord closed the door on military service I climbed through a window to reach the silver lining and perform more civic-minded duties like pay taxes and vote in almost every presidential election."

That's how "when I was your age" stories work. Focus on what was harder, ignore what was easier (or just as hard).
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Old 06 June 2017, 01:17 PM
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When I was in high school, the guidance counselors encouraged us (or at least me, but I imagine I wasn't the only one) to go wherever we wanted/wherever we got in, and just to take out loans if we needed them. Loans were made out to be no big deal.
Me as well.

One of the guidance counselors even suggested to me that I take out student loans and then declare bankruptcy right away to get rid of them (before the law was changed so you couldn't do that).

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Old 06 June 2017, 03:22 PM
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Well, I was a little ticked when I was found 4F. That meant I had to find a "real" job. And I have voted in almost every Presidential election. I have manned a phone bank for Obama. I pay a little tax as possible. Just like Trump.

Actually, unlike ASL, UEL and others, joining the military wasn't a choice for me but rather a fact, I was going to be drafted. So I tried to make the best of it until I found I wasn't eligible to be drafted. That fact actually made me more employable since my future employer didn't have to worry about training me only to have me leave.
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Old 07 June 2017, 12:53 AM
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When I was in high school, the guidance counselors encouraged us (or at least me, but I imagine I wasn't the only one) to go wherever we wanted/wherever we got in, and just to take out loans if we needed them. Loans were made out to be no big deal.....
And that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. For my generation, when college cost 1/5 the price, this type of advice wasn't so bad because one could go to a public university for four years and wind up with $12,0000 in debt total if they borrowed every cent. When you went to college that number would have been closer to $60,000. Its a much more difficult number to get out from under.

Both of my daughters chose college based on cost and scholarships available which kept the price closer to 'reasonable'. They have friends that went to much more expensive colleges on loans who owe six figures. That's an impossible amount to pay off.

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Me as well.

One of the guidance counselors even suggested to me that I take out student loans and then declare bankruptcy right away to get rid of them (before the law was changed so you couldn't do that)....
You are talking about a time when that same education I had for $12,000 was have cost closer to $6,000. I'm not sure you would even have qualified for bankruptcy.
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You are talking about a time when that same education I had for $12,000 was have cost closer to $6,000. I'm not sure you would even have qualified for bankruptcy.
$6,000 is about right and was in fact the amount one of the guidance counselors told us to plan on.

However, people were getting their loans wiped out in bankruptcy in those days. In 1973 there was the story of the person who filed for bankruptcy 14 days after graduating from law school, and there were other abuses, which led to the law being changed.

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Old 07 June 2017, 02:40 PM
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"When I was a kid, I didn't get my iPhone taken away or get grounded from my XBox when I misbehaved. I got my ass beat."

Umm, the main reason they weren't taken away is because THEY DIDN'T EXIST.
But the kid was probably grounded and/or had some privileges (such as watching TV) revoked for a while.
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Old 07 June 2017, 05:19 PM
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But the kid was probably grounded and/or had some privileges (such as watching TV) revoked for a while.
Ha, I read that as a response to Bill's post about a recently-qualified lawyer filing for bankruptcy to wipe out his debts, and for some reason thought of Donald Trump...

(eta, to rub it in ... "I'm the President of the USA! You CAN'T ground me! You CAN'T take away my iPhone!")
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"If drug addicts can get Narcan free because they have a 'disease', why isn't my friend's chemo free?"
Now I'm seeing this with Narcan replaced by methadone.
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Old 12 July 2017, 09:26 PM
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I don't know if this counts as a meme, so much a photo angle. I'm sure there's a term for it, but I call it (in my mind) "the hero shot." That is, any picture taken of the front left or front right (I'm sure there's a better term for that) of a person from just below the level of the chin of a military person standing at attention or parade rest, as if looking up at a stature. It can be a single service member or a group/formation of them, but it's just so damn tiring. Of course it's not just used with the military, but I see it used on military the most (but my sampling of images may be non-representative). Some examples:





You know what, honestly, I'm sick of all photos of military personnel at attention, from any angle. Can we get some action shots, please? Maybe not of training commands? Or at the very least of just milling around like normal people? Heck, even just standing there, not at attention, not being super serious would be fine.
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It is called a low angle shot. (They save the creativity for the writers' room I guess.)

ETA: TV Tropes calls it the "Hitler Cam" because he supposedly insisted on always being filmed this way to make himself appear more heroic.
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Old 12 July 2017, 09:42 PM
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I don't know if this counts as a meme, so much a photo angle. I'm sure there's a term for it, but I call it (in my mind) "the hero shot." That is, any picture taken of the front left or front right (I'm sure there's a better term for that) of a person from just below the level of the chin of a military person standing at attention or parade rest, as if looking up at a stature. It can be a single service member or a group/formation of them, but it's just so damn tiring. Of course it's not just used with the military, but I see it used on military the most (but my sampling of images may be non-representative). Some examples:




You know what, honestly, I'm sick of all photos of military personnel at attention, from any angle. Can we get some action shots, please? Maybe not of training commands? Or at the very least of just milling around like normal people? Heck, even just standing there, not at attention, not being super serious would be fine.
The enfalade shot.
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Old 13 July 2017, 06:27 PM
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"If drug addicts can get Narcan free because they have a 'disease', why isn't my friend's chemo free?"
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Now I'm seeing this with Narcan replaced by methadone.
I'd be curious to know if your friends posting this support a single payer socialized medicine system. My sister, brother in law and cousin have all recently received chemo which was covered completely by our health care.
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Yesterday I posted the story of the guy who checked a single can of beer as luggage on a flight in Australia. Now I'm seeing the picture of the beer can on the baggage carousel going around social media repackaged as "Airline wouldn't let guy take his beer with him, so guy gets revenge on airline by checking single beer can out of spite." I'm annoyed because as I mentioned in the other thread there are no restrictions on taking liquids on domestic flights in Australia, so he would have been allowed to take it with him if he wanted. The original article made no mention of him being motivated by spite or revenge. He was probably just having some fun. And the story was amusing enough on its own. Why does it need to be spun as "little guy gets revenge on big bad airline"? I doubt Qantas was particularly harmed by it anyway.
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I'd be curious to know if your friends posting this support a single payer socialized medicine system. My sister, brother in law and cousin have all recently received chemo which was covered completely by our health care.
Oh, I'm sure they don't. It's the "Why should I have to pay for this, they brought it on themselves" mentality.(After Mickey Mantle was moved to the top of the transplant list and certain people were saying it was because of his celebrity, there was a suggestion that "innocent children" get organs first, and "people who destroy their own bodies" should have to wait.)
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Yet another "Should parents be allowed to spank their kids?"

Comment: "God made the ass for the 3 S's--Sitting, Sh*tting, and Spanking."
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Old 17 July 2017, 02:36 AM
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Yet another "Should parents be allowed to spank their kids?"

Comment: "God made the ass for the 3 S's--Sitting, Sh*tting, and Spanking."
There is no 4th s in there? You know shaking as in "Shake it like a polaroid picture"

And are they therefore still ok with being spanked when they "deserve" it? After all they still do the first two. Then again maybe they would like that.

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Old 17 July 2017, 02:28 PM
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There is no 4th s in there? You know shaking as in "Shake it like a polaroid picture"
How dare you use that phrase on a Snopes site without the disclaimer "WARNING: Actually shaking modern Polaroid pictures during development can damage them!"
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Old 19 July 2017, 01:23 AM
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The meme whereby people post pictures of the food they are about to eat (I guess because it's SOOOOOO awesome?). Nobody cares. Maybe once every couple of years after a wild night out in Hong Kong? Okay, maybe (even that I'm not too keen on, but at least it's not likely to be a common occurrence). But your usual fare from Outback Steakhouse, USA? Nobody cares.
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