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Old 15 September 2018, 05:37 PM
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The State Board of Education in Texas voted on Friday to eliminate several historical figures, including Hillary Clinton and Helen Keller, from the state's social studies curriculum.

Barbara Cargill, a Texas Republican and member of the board, told The Dallas Morning News that "the recommendation to eliminate Helen Keller and Hillary Clinton was made by [Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills] work groups."

"However the board did vote to agree with the work groups' recommendations," Cargill pointed out. "In speaking to teachers and testifiers, they did not mention these specific deletions."
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Old 15 September 2018, 05:41 PM
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I guess I’d want to know who they kept and who they added before I decide to care.
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Old 15 September 2018, 05:45 PM
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My main issue would be that there are already so few women being mentioned, let alone studied, in history. But by all means let's delete mention of some of the few.
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Old 15 September 2018, 06:19 PM
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At this point I'm just glad they didn't revise Hillary's entry to state that she personally murdered everyone at the Libyan embassies and is solely responsible for every data breach that exposed people to identity theft.
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Old 15 September 2018, 10:25 PM
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I guess I’d want to know who they kept and who they added before I decide to care.
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The board also made decisions to keep some references in the curriculum which had been recommended for removal by a working group tasked with streamlining the curriculum, such as a description of the "heroism" of people who defended the Alamo, according to The Dallas Morning News. The board voted to keep references of "Judeo-Christian" values and their influence on American politics and history.

They also voted to reinsert the Biblical figure Moses as an influence on American politics, and remove philosopher Thomas Hobbes from the section on "individuals whose principles of laws and government institutions informed the American founding."
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Old 15 September 2018, 11:07 PM
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"...the recommendation to eliminate Helen Keller..."
She never saw it coming.
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Old 16 September 2018, 02:06 AM
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I am at a lose as to Moses' influence on American politics. Is he why we insist our laws be written on stone tablets, or take direction from burning bushes? Is he behind why we elected two Bushes as president?
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Old 16 September 2018, 04:05 AM
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Well, he was the messenger for the ten commandments, which adorn many courthouses, which makes perfect sense since half of our laws are about whom and how to worship.
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Old 16 September 2018, 10:35 AM
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She never saw it coming.
And she won't hear about it either.

Don't worry, I'll do it :



Still, I find those deletions suspicious, to say the least.
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Old 16 September 2018, 04:21 PM
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At this point I'm just glad they didn't revise Hillary's entry to state that she personally murdered everyone at the Libyan embassies and is solely responsible for every data breach that exposed people to identity theft.
And Helen hated white Christians. Don’t forget that.
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Old 16 September 2018, 05:27 PM
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The Texas State Board of Education has wanted to teach THE BIBLE. That makes it very hard to teach algebra let alone evolution.
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Old 16 September 2018, 07:01 PM
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But having pi as a whole number will simplify trig.
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Old 16 September 2018, 11:08 PM
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That was Tennessee (allegedly). Besides the Texas Board thinks pi was a character in some movie. Now in Alabama (where I received my primary education) we learned pie are round. Cornbread is square.
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Old 17 September 2018, 12:40 AM
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I was referring to pi being considered a whole number in the Old Testament.
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Old 17 September 2018, 01:24 AM
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I wouldn’t say they “considered it” a whole number so much as they lacked both our tendency towards precision in measurements (although of course there were exceptions amongst people who actually "built" things) and, most critically, our conception of anything but natural numbers (and some fractions). Yes, I am aware the criticism is that god could have given Noah a more precise value, but there are many far more egregious errors with Genesis that go far beyond a mere approximation of an actual value. Basically all of Genesis, actually, since none of it happened except maybe there really were these people called Hebrews who then went on to call themselves Israelites.

Anyways, a fair interpretation was that god was as precise as he needed to be under the circumstances and that being much more precise would only have added confusion.

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Old 17 September 2018, 01:51 AM
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Well of course if we are going to follow the Bible, we would be measuring in cubits.
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Old 17 September 2018, 04:28 PM
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Well of course if we are going to follow the Bible, we would be measuring in cubits.
Given that the rest of the world has gone metric, you may as well be measuring in cubits.
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They’ve removed Helen Keller...I’d wonder if it’s because someone finally told them that she became a radical Socialist, who would later help fund the ACLU, and wasn’t just that “Deaf and Blind girl who done learned to talk.” If they did, I might be able to credit Texas State Board of Education with some brain cells. It seems unlikely. Fun fact: though people like to use Helen Keller in hackneyed inspirational stories and crow about how she learned to speak, none of them are the least bit interested in what she had to say.
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They’ve removed Helen Keller...I’d wonder if it’s because someone finally told them that she became a radical Socialist, who would later help fund the ACLU, and wasn’t just that “Deaf and Blind girl who done learned to talk.” If they did, I might be able to credit Texas State Board of Education with some brain cells. It seems unlikely. Fun fact: though people like to use Helen Keller in hackneyed inspirational stories and crow about how she learned to speak, none of them are the least bit interested in what she had to say.
Another fun fact. She was a cheerleader for a genocidal regime. Downplaying her stupid politics is doing her a favor. The woman praised Lenin for God’s sake. Over coming her disabilities is inspirational. Hearing about her politics is nauseating.
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We'd better get Charles Lindberg out of the history books then.
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