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Interacting with her as an actress when she's in class isn't really appropriate, though. I'm still a business process consultant when I'm at some social event, but that doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask me to document your business process or review your documents.
OTOH, it may be completely appropriate to expect someone to use specific skills, gained in the performance of their job, in other settings. For example, it wouldn't be unreasonable for a group I belonged to to ask me to facilitate a meeting, because it's something I'm experienced at. I should have the right say no, of course, either for a particular event or on a blanket basis. |
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I'd find it really funny the first time it happened. After that, well, it loses the spontaneous charm.
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What happened in the Emma Watson story is that someone made a joke about her profession, rather than asking her to perform. IMO, it was inappropriate, but not because it's asking her to do her job in a non-professional setting, it's inappropriate because disturbing class with such jokes is inappropriate and because the person was bothering her with the jokes (unlike teasing from a friend who knows what jokes she'll think are funny). An equivalent scenario might be a lawyer taking say, a French course. The lawyer-student asks a question and some smart-ass calls out "Your Honor, I object!" It isn't asking the lawyer to perform his job; it's just making a (stupid) joke about his profession. |
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You're right, that is a better analogy.
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It's kind of an obvious joke, and I wouldn't be suprised if she's heard it so many times it grates her. But I still think it's kinda funny. I'm not the type to yell out jokes in class, but I'd be suppressing a minor urge to do so in this situation.
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Worse, I sometimes *do* say it in class when someone says something particularly clever. Accidentally saying it to Emma Watson would be just awful!
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This joke is not only drawing her professional live into her student live, it's reducing her to one particular charakter she played. Don Enrico |
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How mortifying! And explaining yourself would likely only make it worse: "I'm so sorry, Ms. Watson. It's nothing to do with you, really, I do that all the time. . . "
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She is an actress (or actor going by the modern trend). That is a descriptor of her profession, even if she is not acting at that very moment. Until/unless it is clear she will no longer pursue that profession, it's a decent descriptor. To say someone is not Profession if they're not actively doing it at that moment is silly and of no practical use. Now, is she wants to emphasize her current role as student over her role as actress, that's absolutely fair and justified. What she is definitely not, however, is Hermione Granger. On a side note, I was working with the French Army in Afghanistan and one of the conference rooms they used was named "Hermione." It was extremely difficult to remember to pronounce it the French way instead of the character name. |
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DWolf is still Daddy, but he's not obligated to change diapers or fetch juice boxes when he's at work. That role is specific to a very small (hah!) set of people, it is not generalize-able.
We all have different roles and responsibilities that come with different relationships in our lives. Some overlap, but many do not; and inserting oneself into a role-responsibility set without permission inappropriately crosses all kinds of privacy boundaries. I am a mother, but I'm not your mother: make your own damn lunch. Four Kitties
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And that’s only really due to the fact that you do not bring your kids to the office - that task is limited to those people. Going to the office does not strip your father-ship from you. Hypothetically, he can still be a dad at the office if his kids were actually there or you had to make father decisions while at work. THe only time you really aren’t a father would be if you no longer had children (and even then I say that once you are a father you stay that way).
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Yes. Even if you bring your kids to work, you are not required to accompany all who ask to the bathroom, just your kids.
When Emma is in class, she is Emma-the-student not Emma-the-actress until and unless her job experience is relevant to the class. Behaving otherwise uninvited is an inappropriate crossing of boundaries. Conflating the student role with the actress role is rude: conflating the student role with a particular character role is even moreso IMHO. AFA awarding house points in class is concerned: remember that Hermione is an exception. Usually the really bright students are in Ravenclaw (which is why the Kitten has a Ravenclaw house banner hanging in her room ![]() Four Kitties
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It makes her an employee who is fulfilling her contractual obligations.
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I do agree that the doesn’t deserve to be treated like a role that she is not playing at this point (I presume that shooting for both parts of HP7 are completed) - that she doesn’t deserve at all even if she is in a drama class. An actor and his or her roles are not something that you get to decide how to mock. Unless she is under contract to play Hermoine, any attempt to tie her to that role is just plain unfair. She is a human being, not a character. |
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So under what circumstances could one call her an actress? Only between the time that the director says Action and Cut?
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I think we are disagreeing on one fundamental thing: Just because she is not on a set with a director and cameras doesn’t mean that she isn’t an actor. It just mean that she isn’t working in that job at the moment. She is still an actor/actress but just not under contact for a specific part. Her bread making job that she declares herself as is “actress”. I work with construction workers who aren’t always on a job site. They are still construction workers even though they may be between jobs at the time. |
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Where does she declare that?
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