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Old 09 April 2009, 02:47 AM
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Dog Phoenix the dog saves boy *and* flag

This is a true story that happened at our church. Please pass it on this
Christmas season to your loved ones and others who need a little
inspiration after recent events in Washington.

We have had a lot of snow up here this year - usually we get about 3 or 4
inches in November, but this year it's been about six. Our church has an
old steepled roof and after every big snowfall someone has to go up on the
roof and clear it off, or the roof caves in. The minister is getting old
and he can't do it any more so the local kids usually do it for him.

This year it was Jimmy's turn. He probably didn't want to do it, you know
how kids are, but his mother said he should get over there and help the
old minister out. So last Saturday, Jimmy went over and got up on the
roof to shovel the snow. I guess the minister was sleeping or something,
because there was no one around. What Jimmy didn't know was the roof had
ALREADY weakened from the snow, and just as he was brushing the snow off
the roof, the roof beam snapped and he fell through the hole into the
attic of the church.

The force of the fall must have knocked over a candle in the church,
because the minister woke up at his house to see smoke coming out of the
church. He called the fire department and would probably have thought
nothing more of it, but his old retriever Phoenix was barking at him. He
let her out of the house and she ran over to the church. She kept barking
and barking at the church but the minister didn't know what she was
saying. Finally she jumped through the window of the church and ran
inside.

When the firemen showed up, there was smoke pouring out of the church, and
they rushed in the front door. They saw Phoenix barking at the ceiling.
One of the fireman used a ladder and an axe to open up the ceiling, and
inside was the attic room, where Jimmy had passed out, probably from the
smoke. They took him down the ladder and out of the church, and we have
heard that he is going to be okay. There were a lot of people standing
outside when he was brought out, just praying that everything would be
okay, and they were all cheering when they say that Jimmy was okay.

But no one could find Phoenix. It was very smoky in the church and the
fireman said they didn't see the dog after they climbed up the ladder to
the attic. Then all of a sudden while people were standing outside the
church, Phoenix came racing out the front door of the church holding the
old American flag that stood near the pulpit in her mouth. People started
cheering because it looked like she had saved Old Glory from the flames.
We are all still talking about this amazing pooch.

THE BEST PART? You may not know this, but "Phoenix" was the code name
that the Secret Service gave John McCain during his campaign. You think
someone is trying to tell us something about the recent election???

Have a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS and GOD BLESS AMERICA THIS CHRISTMAS SEASON!

Please pass this on to anybody who needs inspiration!
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Old 09 April 2009, 02:56 AM
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You think someone is trying to tell us something about the recent election???
Yes. The country was spared from having a president who apparently thinks, using this comparison, that it is a good thing for someone to endanger their life to save an inanimate object that could have been easily replaced.
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Old 09 April 2009, 02:58 AM
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Yes. The country was spared from having a president who apparently thinks, using this comparison, that it is a good thing for someone to endanger their life to save an inanimate object that could have been easily replaced.
From people who leave random candles lit in the early morning when no one's around. Never a good idea.
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Old 09 April 2009, 03:05 AM
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We have had a lot of snow up here this year - usually we get about 3 or 4
inches in November, but this year it's been about six. Our church has an
old steepled roof and after every big snowfall someone has to go up on the
roof and clear it off, or the roof caves in. The minister is getting old
and he can't do it any more so the local kids usually do it for him.
After six inches of snow the roof is in danger of falling in? And it sounds like this has happened before ("or the roof caves in"), so when the roof was rebuilt after the last time it caved in, no one thought to make it so that it would withstand more than a few inches of snow? And they just send kids up on this flimsy roof to shovel off the snow? Wow. This place has some problems.
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Old 09 April 2009, 03:29 AM
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...the minister woke up at his house to see smoke coming out of the
church. He called the fire department and would probably have thought
nothing more of it, but his old retriever Phoenix was barking at him.
He
let her out of the house and she ran over to the church.
Let me get this straight: the minister sees smoke coming out of his church, calls the fire department, and then what -- nothing? Was he going to take a nap? Head out to buy groceries? Thank goodness the dog barked at him!

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She kept barking and barking at the church but the minister didn't know what she was saying.
Never watched Lassie, minister?

Anyway, I'm assuming this is Washington state, not DC. I've searched several newspaper sites for "church fire" in November and December of last year, but haven't found anything matching the story. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, it sounds like the fire itself wasn't a big deal... thanks to the dog.

ETA: I should point out that we did have a lot more snow here than usual this winter, and many roofs did collapse under the weight. It wasn't simply the quantity, but it was a very wet snow, hence very heavy.

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Old 09 April 2009, 03:38 AM
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She kept barking and barking at the church but the minister didn't know what she was saying.
Wretched be the minister who does not heed the word of Dog.

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This year it was Jimmy's turn. He probably didn't want to do it, you know
how kids are
Yep. Always moaning and whining when you ask them to something life threatening like climb onto a snowy roof without the proper safety equipment and training. I bet he also has a bit of a moan when they ask him to climb up the chimney to sweep it.
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Old 09 April 2009, 06:12 AM
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After six inches of snow the roof is in danger of falling in?
My thoughts exactly. Six inches is nothing. I don't even bother with 70 cm of wet snow on my roof. Maybe, just maybe, if it was over a meter of wet snow, I would push some of it down.

Really, there is such a thing as building regulations.

Maybe it was a tent?
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Old 09 April 2009, 09:34 AM
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I would suggest that someone needs to call OSHA about working conditions potentially harmful to minors.

I mean, really, who sends a kid onto a church roof on their own? And then the glurgewriter treats this as perfectly normal?
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Old 09 April 2009, 10:05 AM
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How does Phoenix know that he should save Old Glory?

And they assume Jimmy is asleep from the smoke and not, say unconscious from his fall through the roof?
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Old 09 April 2009, 12:24 PM
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Okay... most people use roof rakes, no? On top of that, why did the dog not go back in and save the Christian Flag?!?!?! Won't someone think of Jebus?!
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Old 09 April 2009, 01:07 PM
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Well, as I said, this winter in the Seattle area we had multiple bouts of heavy, wet snow. Normally there's just one or two light dustings at most (bear me out, fellow Puget Sounders!), so most people, including government, aren't prepared for the levels we had at the end of last year. There are never enough snowplows, and it's rare for someone to own an actual snow shovel; stores ran out of them quickly this winter. And roofs of buildings, especially old ones, aren't constructed with heavy snow in mind. So the story that a church roof was in potential danger of collapse, and that someone was sent up to clear the snow off, isn't that unlikely.
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Old 09 April 2009, 01:39 PM
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THE BEST PART? You may not know this, but "Phoenix" was the code name that the Secret Service gave John McCain during his campaign. You think someone is trying to tell us something about the recent election???
I think the writer of this glurge must be very flexible, considering how far he or she is stretching to try to make this point.

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After six inches of snow the roof is in danger of falling in? And it sounds like this has happened before ("or the roof caves in"), so when the roof was rebuilt after the last time it caved in, no one thought to make it so that it would withstand more than a few inches of snow? And they just send kids up on this flimsy roof to shovel off the snow? Wow. This place has some problems.
Yeah, that was my thought. "It's too dangerous for the Pastor, let's send the children!"
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Old 09 April 2009, 01:43 PM
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Our church has an old steepled roof and after every big snowfall someone has to go up on the roof and clear it off
I would've thought that a "steepled roof" would have less of a problem with collecting snow. I mean, at least good enough that it wouldn't be necessary to send an unattended child up alone without safety equipment to shovel it off.

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Finally she jumped through the window of the church and ran inside.
So, either they leave the windows of the church open in the dead of winter, or the dog was able to somehow crash through a pane of glass unscathed. Oh, I know! It was cheap, thin, light glass - the minister hired the cheapest contractors he could fine, and in turn they used the cheapest materials they could. The same problem the lead to the danger of the weak roof beams also saved Jimmy by giving the dog paper thin glass to crash through (bet she busted through in slow motion, too, for more dramatic effect).

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THE BEST PART? You may not know this, but "Phoenix" was...
...also the name of the mythical bird that arose from its own ashes. So if the stupid dog had burned, it would have been okay, because it would have come back!
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Old 09 April 2009, 01:49 PM
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Oh, I know! It was cheap, thin, light glass - the minister hired the cheapest contractors he could fine, and in turn they used the cheapest materials they could.
I'm pretty sure they made the kids build the church, like the slaves building the tombs in Egypt.
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Old 09 April 2009, 04:11 PM
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I think if this story is telling us anything about messages from God, it's that he really hates Jimmy, and is doing his damnedest to kill the poor kid.

I do like how glurgey stories often try to pass off a series of natural disasters as some sort of uplifting message from God. "Child almost dies in unexplained rood collapse and fire" does not really inspire me that much.
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Seems like every Glurge building has a code violation that would get it condemmed in the real world.
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Old 14 April 2009, 06:21 AM
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I would've thought that a "steepled roof" would have less of a problem with collecting snow.
Somewhat, but it depends on the snow and on the angle of the roof. you can easily get a meter snow on a 45 degree roof if the conditions are right, especially if you first get wet snow and it then becomes colder. I've almost had avalanches outside my window in the spring...
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Okay... most people use roof rakes, no? On top of that, why did the dog not go back in and save the Christian Flag?!?!?! Won't someone think of Jebus?!
I was thinking the story was edited a bit.

When Phoenix came out with the flag the minister said "so, where's the Bible?" Then the people grew silent because they were reminded that God should always come before country and Pheonix was forever banished from the town.

The old dog moved to the midwest where he became the leader of a flag worshipping cult.

Jimmy traveled around the country using his snow removal/arson scam to get rich.
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You may not know this, but "Phoenix" was the code name
that the Secret Service gave John McCain during his campaign. You think
someone is trying to tell us something about the recent election???
OBJECTION!

I think this was "someone" trying to tell us to elect a spiky-haired lawyer!
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THE BEST PART? You may not know this, but "Phoenix" was the code name
that the Secret Service gave John McCain during his campaign. You think
someone is trying to tell us something about the recent election???
Yes indeed: it tells us that if your typical McCain supporter's dumb enough to believe such crap, then Obama's election becomes an even greater blessing.

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