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Old 30 August 2018, 04:20 PM
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Default Futuristic 'moving grandstand' proposed for horse track in New Mexico

In a bid to put horse racing fans in the thick of the action, a Las Vegas-based casino executive wants to build a racetrack that features a moving grandstand that speeds alongside the horses as they circle the track.

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Old 30 August 2018, 04:37 PM
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It may be childish, but the only response that this idea merits is:


Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
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Old 30 August 2018, 06:00 PM
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I'll wait till they do the same thing for NASCAR.
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Old 30 August 2018, 07:55 PM
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In other words, they’re going to put a maglev around a racetrack. Whatever happened to all those maglevs they started building in various places across the US circa 2002?
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Am I the only one to go:
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"Wait! What? How could that even work?"
The horses are running up to 40 miles / hour on an oval in front of the stands. That means the stands will have a longer distance to travel in the same time as the horses complete a race. So without figuring out the ratio of a race track to the path these theoretical stands are following, I would roughly guess they could be moving somewhere between 60mph and 80mph.

My goodness, I hope the seats come with safety belts and nobody is standing with a beer when the race starts!

ETA: Now to read the article to see what it may actually say about any of this.

ETA2: So they did mention how fast horses can go, but nothing about stands being on a longer path so they would need to be moving even faster, but maybe by a smaller ratio then I originally thought since it is a much smaller moving stand then I was originally imagining. Also being in a vehicle with only a couple three rows of seats, there would likely not be much standing while moving and could easily be appropriate restraints.

Small weird aside. Clovis New Mexico is just a couple dozen miles from where I went to college at Eastern New Mexico University in Portales, NM. I knew the area well 30ish years ago.

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We took a tour in New York in a bus where everyone faced out the left side of the bus (the tour included skits out that side). I doubt it got up to more than 30 miles per hour, but there was not a significant amount of lurching even when starting or stopping at lights. The grandstands could be even smoother as they'd be able to start moving before the horses do.
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Illustrations of the moving grandstand show a sleek, glass-walled, streetcar-like vehicle that Lee said would accommodate around 200 spectators.
That sounds more feasible. I was picturing a full-sized grandstand with thousands of spectators trying to slide along and take corners, and it wasn't an easy picture. Presumably this would be special first-class seating, with regular grandstands behind it.
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E. Q. Taft: You had the same image I did before reading the article -- a full sized moving grandstand going around the track. That would be a lot of mass going quickly around an oval.
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Small weird aside. Clovis New Mexico is just a couple dozen miles from where I went to college at Eastern New Mexico University in Portales, NM. I knew the area well 30ish years ago.
I lived in Clovis for 6 years in the late '80s early '90s. The idea that there might be a "$200 million resort" there at some point boggles my mind! But then again, Las Vegas was a pretty quiet community before Nevada legalized gambling, so there's that.
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I lived in Clovis for 6 years in the late '80s early '90s. The idea that there might be a "$200 million resort" there at some point boggles my mind!
I attended ENMU from 1986 to 1990. {small world}

It really does boggle the mind doesn't it.
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I was stationed at Cannon AFB from '85 to '88 and again from '92 to 95. I have friends that still live in the area, so I'm trying not to be too disparaging. Apparently, it's a great place to retire if you enjoy the quiet life.
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I'm not sure if they still do, but it used to be common to have trains running along rowing competitions.

*ETA: I see now that is mentioned in the article and maybe wasn't so common.
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ETA2: So they did mention how fast horses can go, but nothing about stands being on a longer path so they would need to be moving even faster, but maybe by a smaller ratio then I originally thought since it is a much smaller moving stand then I was originally imagining. Also being in a vehicle with only a couple three rows of seats, there would likely not be much standing while moving and could easily be appropriate restraints.
It wouldn't need to be be much different from a tube / subway / metro train. A lot of those have sideways facing seats and people standing (with things to hang on to), and don't have belts or restraints. It might have to accelerate faster, I suppose - not sure how quickly an actual tube train gets up to 40mph. (Between closer stations, they probably don't...) But since you can control the number of people on it, you wouldn't need standing room, just enough space to get between the rows of seats easily. Even if the occasional person was still standing up to get back to their seat when the race started, they could just grab a rail and carry on. The people sitting down would be fine.
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Small weird aside. Clovis New Mexico is just a couple dozen miles from where I went to college at Eastern New Mexico University in Portales, NM. I knew the area well 30ish years ago.
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I lived in Clovis for 6 years in the late '80s early '90s. The idea that there might be a "$200 million resort" there at some point boggles my mind! But then again, Las Vegas was a pretty quiet community before Nevada legalized gambling, so there's that.
What a small world. Boeing had a training facility at Clovis Community College. I undertook one of my unmanned aircraft training courses there. Spent 8 weeks living there in 2008.

The fact that someone wants to put that much money into the region will be a boon, I don't know where they will get the millions of people to come see the horses run to help pay for it all.
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I lived in Clovis for 6 years in the late '80s early '90s. The idea that there might be a "$200 million resort" there at some point boggles my mind! But then again, Las Vegas was a pretty quiet community before Nevada legalized gambling, so there's that.
The other thing is that, considering the numbers you hear thrown around for stadium construction and so forth, $200 million doesn't sound like all that much. (Disneyland cost $17 million to build in 1955; Disney World cost $331 million in 1970; the Radiator Springs Racers attraction at Disney's California Adventure is estimated to have cost over $200 million in 2012...)
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