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Old 13 February 2008, 02:26 AM
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Comment: I would like to find out if this e-mail I received is true.

A bit of history for you!

Who the heck was KILROY??
KILROY WAS HERE!

In 1946 the American Transit Association, through its radio program,
"Speak to America," sponsored a nationwide contest to find the REAL
Kilroy, offering a prize of a real trolley car to the person who could
prove himself to be the genuine article.

Almost 40 men stepped forward to make that claim, but only James Kilroy
from Halifax, Massachusetts had evidence of his identity.

Kilroy was a 46-year old shipyard worker during the war. He worked as a
checker at the Fore River Shipyard in Quincy. His job was to go around and
check on the number of rivets completed. Riveters were on piecework and
got paid by the rivet.

Kilroy would count a block of rivets and put a check mark in semi-waxed
lumber chalk, so the rivets wouldn't be counted twice. When Kilroy went
off duty, the riveters would erase the mark.

Later on, an off-shift inspector would come through and count the rivets a
second time, resulting in double pay for the riveters.

One day Kilroy's boss called him into his office. The foreman was upset
about all the wages being paid to riveters, and asked him to investigate.
It was then that he realized what had been going on.

The tight spaces he had to crawl in to check the rivets didn't lend
themselves to lugging around a paint can and brush, so Kilroy decided to
stick with the waxy chalk. He continued to put his checkmark on each job
he inspected, but added KILROY WAS HERE in king-sized letters next to the
check, and eventually added the sketch of the chap with the long nose
peering over the fence and that became part of the Kilroy message. Once he
did that, the riveters stopped trying to wipe away his marks.

Ordinarily the rivets and chalk marks would have been covered up with
paint. With war on, however, ships were leaving the Quincy Yard so fast
that there wa sn't time to paint them.

As a result, Kilroy's inspection "trademark" was seen by thousands of
servicemen who boarded the troopships the yard produced. His message
apparently rang a bell with the servicemen, because they picked it up and
spread it all over Europe and the South Pacific. Before the war's end,
"Kilroy" had been here, there, and everywhere on the long haul to Berlin
and Tokyo.

To the unfortunate troops outbound in those ships, however, he was a
complete mystery; all they knew for sure was that some jerk named Kilroy
had "been there first." As a joke, U.S. servicemen began placing the
graffiti wherever they landed, claiming it was already there when they
arrived.

Kilroy became the U.S. super-GI who had always "already been" wherever GIs
went. It became a challenge to place the logo in the most unlikely places
imaginable (it is said to be atop Mt. Everest, the Statue of Liberty, the
underside of the Arch De Triumphe, and even scrawled in the dust on the
moon.)

And as the war went on, the legend grew. Underwater demolition teams
routinely sneaked ashore on Japanese-held islands in the Pacific to map
the terrain for the coming invasions by U.S. troops (and thus, presumably,
were the first GI's there). On one occasion, however, they reported seeing
enemy troops painting over the Kilroy logo! In 1945, an outhouse was built
for the exclusive use of Roosvelt, Stalin, and
Churchill at the Potsdam conference.

The first person inside was Stalin, who emerged and asked his aide (in
Russian), "Who is Kilroy?" ...

To help prove his authenticity in 1946, James Kilroy brought along
officials from the shipyard and some of the riveters. He won the trolley
car, which he gave it to his nine children as a Christmas gift and set it
up as a playhouse in the Kilroy front yard in Halifax,Massachusetts.

So now You Know!
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Old 13 February 2008, 02:31 AM
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And knowing is half the battle!

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Old 13 February 2008, 05:47 AM
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And knowing is half the battle!

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GO JOE!!!
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Old 13 February 2008, 04:07 PM
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Well, if you trust Unca Cecil, the story is pretty much true. However, he credits the words to Mr. Kilroy and the drawing to a brittish cartoonist, George Edward Chatterton (they got the cartoonist part from the Oxford English Dictionary)
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Old 13 February 2008, 06:48 PM
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The drawing (known as Chad, presumably from the cartoonists name), was widely used as graffitti in the UK during WWII, usually with a plaintive "Wot, No Bananas" etc decrying wartime shortages. Presumably US servicemen 'borrowed' the image and associated it with the "Kilroy Was Here" text.
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Old 15 February 2008, 01:46 PM
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Mr. Roboto!!
I actually very nearly posted something like "*Just looks at topic* is a great album!" Glad to see I wasn't the only one thinking along those lines, even if you ultimately pulled the trigger on the idea before I did.
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The drawing (known as Chad, presumably from the cartoonists name), was widely used as graffitti in the UK during WWII, usually with a plaintive "Wot, No Bananas" etc decrying wartime shortages. Presumably US servicemen 'borrowed' the image and associated it with the "Kilroy Was Here" text.
And to the political left, Kilroy became the symbol of the workers of the world, the 'poor bloody infantry' as in Ewan McColl's song:

Who was here when they handed out the heavy jobs
Jobs with the hammer, the pick and shovel
Who choked in the foundry, froze in the fish docks,
Eight days in the week?

Who was here with a mile of rock above him,
Three foot seam in the darkness crouching
Stinging sweat in his eyes, powdered rock in his spittle
One hundred minutes to the hour?

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Kilroy, Kilroy, where has Kilroy gone?
Kilroy was here, see there's his mark.
He came this way, he was wearing his number.
Did no-one see him pass?
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