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Old 03 December 2013, 06:19 PM
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Comment: Three stories

These stories are woven with shared mystical threads. All the details are
absolutely true. 3 stories

Translated from Russian by Chaim Zehavi

First Story

At the beginning of WWII, when the truth about the fate of the Jewish
people was discovered, and when there were still ways to save them, a few
hundred rich Jews bought a ship in order to get their families on board
and escape to America. But they needed visas, so they approached the
American Ambassador in London. It was not difficult for him, but he
utterly refused. The Jews, in order to save their families, went without
the visas.
When the Ambassador found out about it, he contacted Washington, advising
them that a ship with illegal immigrants is approaching America. The Jews
managed to overcome the horrors of war and reach America, but were not
permitted into America. These unlucky people were ordered to turn around
and return to burning Europe. and all burnt in the camps.
When the tragedy was revealed, the Rabbi of London came to the American
Ambassador and said: "Your deeds do not befit not only your post, but you
are not fit to be called 'a human'. And now, since you caused hundreds of
people's death, YOU AND ALL YOUR DESCENDANTS generations down from now on
will be cursed!"

The name of the American Ambassador was KENNEDY.


Second Story

Again, WWII. Lithowenia. The Japanese Ambassador, who was a compassionate
and noble person, disagreed with the Nazi crimes, and was concerned with
the future of the European Jewry. He used his status and provided them
with visas to Japan. From Japan they immigrated to America. Thus he saved
the lives of thousands of Jews.
When the Germans found out they demanded that the Ambassador will be
removed. The Japanese, allies of the Nazis, followed the request. But he
still had 2 weeks until his return, and he used these 2 weeks, and worked
around the clock, days and nights, and recruited people to help him issue
more visas. The lives of many more Jews were saved this way.
This was a very dangerous act, deserving of admiration.
Prior to his leaving a mission of Jews from the Vilna Synagogue came to
thank him.
"What you have done for the Jewish People will never be forgotten, and we
will pray to God to bless you and your descendants."
This wonderful person returned to Japan, and miraculously all his
punishment was that he was fired and lost his pension.
In order to help his family he started a small workshop.
His name was Mitsubishi.


Third Story

In the center of the city of Kiev there's a statue in memory of the
all-powerful leader of the Ukraine, Bogdan Khmelnitsky. He is sitting on
the back of a beautiful horse, his right hand holding a sword and pointing
up, towards the sky. he is the epitome of Ukraine's independence.
Khmelnitsky is the pride of the Ukrainians, and all visitors are impressed
by the beauty of the statue of the great leader.
But not many know that Khmelnitsky was a beastly anti-Semite. On his
conscience many pogroms against the Jews, burning down of towns and
villages, and the blood of many innocent Jews. How many future-geniuses,
who could have been great achievers, were lost to the world. His ruthless
thugs had no mercy for women or children.
These are historical facts. A lot sorrow brought the accursed Khmelnitsky
to the land of Ukraine.
But in one town, the pogrom was especially horrible. Khmelnitsky and his
thugs, drunken on Jewish blood, robbed and destroyed all the homes of the
Jews. The boys and the girls were taken to the Synagogue and were all
burnt without mercy. All that was left of this town was its name, and not
one living Jew.
But centuries later the punishment came!

The name of this town is Chernobyl, and in the exact place that the
Synagogue used to be, was the Nuclear Plant #4 of the infamous power plant known
in the tragedy that occurred in this town.
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Old 03 December 2013, 06:40 PM
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"Lithowenia"?

There was a Japanese diplomat who saved many Jews, but his name was Chiune Sugihara, and he was vice-consul, not ambassador.

He did engage in a final scramble to save as many people as possible, according to Wiki and some other accounts I've read but can't currently cite.

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Sugihara continued to hand write visas, reportedly spending 18–20 hours a day on them, producing a normal month's worth of visas each day, until 4 September, when he had to leave his post before the consulate was closed. By that time he had granted thousands of visas to Jews, many of whom were heads of households and thus permitted to take their families with them. On the night before their scheduled departure, Sugihara and his wife stayed awake writing out visa approvals. According to witnesses, he was still writing visas while in transit from his hotel and after boarding the train at the Kaunas Railway Station, throwing visas into the crowd of desperate refugees out of the train's window even as the train pulled out.
In final desperation, blank sheets of paper with only the consulate seal and his signature (that could be later written over into a visa) were hurriedly prepared and flung out from the train.
ETA: Wasn't the Mitsubishi company building planes for Japan during WWII?
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Old 03 December 2013, 06:41 PM
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Japan didn't establish an embassy in Lithuania until 1997, so there was no Japanese ambassador there during World War 2. However, there was a Japanese vice-consul named Chiune Sugihara, and he did help several thousand Jews leave the country. He didn't have anything to do with the Mitsubishi company, which was founded thirty years before he was born and isn't named after a person.

ETA: Spanked! Mitsubishi built the famous Mitsubishi A6M "Zero" fighter plane.
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Old 03 December 2013, 06:51 PM
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The name of this town is Chernobyl, and in the exact place that the Synagogue used to be, was the Nuclear Plant #4 of the infamous power plant known in the tragedy that occurred in this town.
Except that the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant wasn't built in the city of Chernobyl, it was built nine miles away near the town of Pripyat.
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Old 03 December 2013, 07:05 PM
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Is the first tale based on the story of the SS St Louis, whose refugees were turned away from Cuba, then the US and Canada? If so, the numbers are a bit off as 652 of the 907 refugees survived the war. I found one sketch reference that Joe Kennedy helped negotiate the acceptance of 288 of the refugees to the UK, but other than that he does not appear to have had much to do with it directly.
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Old 03 December 2013, 07:09 PM
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Well, you can't let facts get in the way of a juicy tale of rich Jews with mystical powers.
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Old 03 December 2013, 07:21 PM
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I originally had some links for stories 1 and 3 but GenYus234 and GaryM have covered that. However, I do have some info on Story 2 I'd like to share.
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In order to help his family he started a small workshop.
His name was Mitsubishi.
From Misubishi's official website (emphasis mine):
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The founder, Yataro Iwasaki was from the prefecture of Kochi on the island of Shikoku, which was the home of the powerful Tosa clan. He worked for the clan and distinguished himself in managing its Osaka trading operations. In 1870, he set up his own shipping company, Tsukumo Shokai, with three steamships chartered from the clan.
As previously mentioned, Chiune Sugihara, did, in fact, help the Jews. However, I can't find any evidence that he ever worked for Mitsubishi.

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ETA: Spanked by GaryM on Mitsubishi!

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Old 03 December 2013, 07:29 PM
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And the company name means three diamonds, and doesn't come from a family name.
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Old 03 December 2013, 08:08 PM
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Of course what they don't tell you is that each time, the rabbis had to consume the hearts of 666 Christian babies in order to steal their souls to power the curse (or blessing).
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How many future-geniuses,
who could have been great achievers, were lost to the world.
Apart from the stories all being untrue, this argument always angers me - whether it's used to blame anti-semite pogroms or what ever. How many future gansters, murders, bullies, dead-beat fathers, nigerian scammers were lost the world? Killing human beings is inherently wrong, not because the murdered person might have become a great achiever.
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Old 04 December 2013, 06:43 AM
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Those were my thoughts, and always are when that argument is used. It is probably equally likely that a given person would be a serial killer as a super-genius. And it is irrelevant; it isn't ok to kill an ex-con, for example (not counting killing someone in self defense). Killing people is immoral regardless of their moral standing or usefulness to society.
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