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Old 23 June 2012, 06:12 AM
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Comment: I recently noticed a post on facebook claiming that the Apple
computer logo is often referred to as a tribute to Alan Turing, with the
bite mark being a reference to his method of suicide. The post goes on to
say that during a British TV Show called QI, in series 1, episode 13,
Stephen Fry recounts having a conversation about it with Steve Jobs, who
basically confirmed that it was true.

Is this accurate?
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Old 23 June 2012, 06:19 AM
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Every indication that I have gotten is that the logo (and the company name) came from a summer where Jobs we picking apple’s at an orchard. I don’t think it has anything to do with Turing since the very first Apple logo was a depiction of Issac Newton sitting under a tree.

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This logo is often erroneously referred to as a tribute to Alan Turing, with the bite mark a reference to his method of suicide. Both the designer of the logo and the company deny that there is any homage to Turing in the design of the logo.
I simply don’t think Jobs would have confirmed something like this given the company officially denied the thing and given the first logo didn’t involve an Apple at all.

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Old 29 October 2012, 06:53 PM
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IIRC Fry didn't confirm it in that episode of QI, he said that he asked Jobs about it and Jobs said that he wished it was true but it wasn't.
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I'd always heard that the name and logo was based on the Beatle's apple corps. I believed it because Steve famously liked the Beatles.
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the first logo didnít involve an Apple at all
I think there was an apple in there -- it was hanging off the tree above Newton's head.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that the bite taken out of the apple in the current logo was meant to be a play on the word "byte".
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Interesting.

Based on nothing whatsoever other than my own wild guess, I had always assumed the apple was the one Eve supposedly bit into: the fruit of the tree of knowledge.

Possibly the logic of connecting this to computers, particularly net-connected computers, makes sense mostly in my own head. But it makes lots of sense there.
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I'd always heard that the name and logo was based on the Beatle's apple corps. I believed it because Steve famously liked the Beatles.
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I think there was an apple in there -- it was hanging off the tree above Newton's head.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that the bite taken out of the apple in the current logo was meant to be a play on the word "byte".
If I thought about it at all I assumed the bite would have been to distinish it from The Beatles logo. This does not discount the bite being a play on byte. Just a thought.
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Based on nothing whatsoever other than my own wild guess, I had always assumed the apple was the one Eve supposedly bit into: the fruit of the tree of knowledge.
Interesting. This is the first time I've heard this theory. However, it looks like others have thought this too. (More below.) The most common theory I have heard was this one:
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If I thought about it at all I assumed the bite would have been to distinish it from The Beatles logo.
However, the Wikipedia article that diddy linked to above led me to the article about Rob Janoff, who designed the logo, which led me to this interview with him. Some relevant quotes:
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We presented two versions of the logo. One with and one without the bite. Just in case he [Steve Jobs] thought the bite was too cute. Fortunately he went with the one that gave it the most personality with the bite.
{ snip }
the real solid reason for the stripes was that the Apple II was the first home or personal computer that could reproduce images on the monitor in color.
Here he addresses the rumors that he was influenced by the Biblical story of Eve or Isaac Newton observing an apple falling:
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They are really interesting, but I'm afraid it didn't have a thing to do with it.
{ snip }
And, they are all BS. It's a wonderful urban legend. Somebody starts it and then people go "oh yeah, that must be it".
{ snip }
Well, I'm probably the least religious person, so Adam and Eve didn't have anything to do with it. The bite of knowledge sounds fabulous, but that's not it.
Here he addresses the false rumors about Alan Turing:
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So, I heard one of the legends being that the colored logo was an homage to him. People think I did the colored stripes because of the gay flag.
Then he gives the real reasons:
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But I'll tell you. I designed it with a bite for scale, so people get that it was an apple not a cherry. Also it was kind of iconic about taking a bite out of an apple. Something that everyone can experience.
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I seem to recall reading somewhere that the bite taken out of the apple in the current logo was meant to be a play on the word "byte".
He even addresses the bite/byte theory:
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It was after I designed it that my creative director told me: "Well you know, there is a computer term called byte". And I was like: "You're kidding!" So, it was like perfect, but it was coincidental that it was also a computer term. At the time I had to be told everything about basic computer terms.
He goes on to say that he didn't even use a computer until the Mac came out.

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