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Old 14 March 2012, 09:47 PM
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Crescent, that was my thought. I doubt Stalin thought nearly so highly of the US, and I doubt even more that he thought our "spiritual life" (or anyone else's, FTM) was a significant source of strength.
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Old 14 March 2012, 10:04 PM
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It's backwards anyway. It starts from the assumption that Stalin would acknowledge that he was evil, and was trying to destroy healthy things. The implication is that he wanted to make the USA "sick" like the USSR, and wasn't afraid to tell his cronies because they'd all agree. I doubt that's the way he would have put it...
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Old 14 March 2012, 10:16 PM
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Just last summer the ever-helpful BrianB took a stab at this establishing the authenticity of this attribution.

http://message.snopes.com/showpost.p...88&postcount=6

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Old 14 March 2012, 10:30 PM
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In that thread, BrianB had noted

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Also, the earliest references to this quote only go back to 2001.
Actually, now we can take it back to 1983.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...thy-body&hl=en
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Old 14 March 2012, 10:58 PM
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Actually, now we can take it back to 1983.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...thy-body&hl=en
That. Is. Awesome! Thank you, Bonnie! I see Ms. Bicksler also quotes (see No. 2) from The Naked Communist by Cleon Skousen. Could that be the source of the OP quote?
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Old 14 March 2012, 11:31 PM
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Apparently, we can't blame this on The Naked Communist:

http://books.google.com/books?id=qeL...ist%22&f=false

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Old 15 March 2012, 09:49 AM
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Strange that Stalin's daughter defected to the US, albeit long after her father died.
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Old 15 March 2012, 03:20 PM
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It's actually a quote from the Spanish Inquisition.

“America is like a healthy body and its resistance is three fold: its patriotism, its morality, its spiritual life, and its commitment to -- four fold: its patriotism, its morality, its spiritual life, its commitment to democracy, and . . . Five fold. I'll start again."
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Old 15 March 2012, 03:26 PM
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Strange that Stalin's daughter defected to the US, albeit long after her father died.
Out of curiosity, why do you find it strange? Children often grow up to hold widely different views from their parents, even to strongly oppose their parents.
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Old 15 March 2012, 04:49 PM
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My guess is we can blame some sort of New Right group, based on this letter to the editor from 1986. It cites the Naked Communist, but indicates that all this information came from an article by the "Intercessors of America."

Intercessors of America was a group founded by Arizona congressman John Conlan and Bill Bright (of Campus Crusade for Christ) in 1974. It didn't last too long, but it would have been active in the 1980s. See this. But I think there is a group doing business as that name now.
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