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Old 14 July 2011, 10:36 PM
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Hmmm ... lemme think about it.

Nope, still don't think he's the antichrist.
Actually, he is. Most people say "antiChrist" when really the term is supposed to be "anteChrist," meaning before Christ. So, because Obama arrived to lead the people before Christ's return to Earth, Obama is, in fact, the anteChrist...though probably not the only one.
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Old 15 July 2011, 09:36 PM
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[...] he is revealing himself more each day.
Eww! Barack Obama, kindly refrain from showing us your presidential primaries!
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Old 16 July 2011, 01:05 AM
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Ah, but the claim is not the the antiChrist is a Muslim, but that he is "of Muslim decent" (whatever that means)
That means everybody.

Because of the many generations, everybody is probably descended from Mohammed. But everybody is certainly descended from some Muslim or other.
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Old 16 July 2011, 01:18 AM
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Steve, what are you talking about?
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Old 18 July 2011, 05:44 AM
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I presume he's taking about the statistical calculation that if Mohammed had x children, and every one of them had x children, and every one of them had x children ... after 1500 years and so many generations, Mohammed has more grand-grand-grand-grand...children than there are people living right now. Which means, of course, that everybody living right now is a grandchild of Mohammed.

At the same time, everybody living right now id a grandchild of every single contemporary of Mohammed, from the Siberian Inuit to the Amazonas Indians who lived at that time.
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Old 18 July 2011, 06:01 AM
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Steve, what are you talking about?
I don't think that question is within the scope of this board.
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Old 18 July 2011, 06:51 AM
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It's not correct, anyway. Although no one is completely genetically separated by anyone else by more than several thousand years, plenty are separated by more than 1400 years. So, no, not every person on the planet is descended from a follower of Islam.
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Old 11 November 2013, 02:41 AM
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Comment: A new rumor that is going around is that President Obama had 666
painted onto Airforce One, indicating that he is not Christian and/or is
the "AntiChrist". As absurd as this sounds, many people are actually
believing this.
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Old 11 November 2013, 02:41 AM
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A new rumor that is going around is that President Obama had 666
painted onto Airforce One, indicating that he is not Christian
But if he weren't a Christian, then that number wouldn't hold any significance.
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Old 11 November 2013, 03:58 PM
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Are vampires Christian?

They seem to see a lot of significance in crosses.

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*As an aside the line about the Vampires of Ventura Boulevard in "Free Fallin" just came on the radio as I typed that. Coincidence?
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Old 11 November 2013, 05:07 PM
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Vampires don't like crosses because they remind them of four-way intersections. They always get stuck behind a driver who waits at the intersection because he can't see anyone behind them, so lets the other drivers through first.
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Are vampires Christian?

They seem to see a lot of significance in crosses.
There is a scene in The Fearless Vampire Killers by Roman Polanski where the tavern keeper turned vampire Yoine Shagal breaks into his maid's bedroom. She, of course, gets scared and takes down a cross from the wall, only to be told that "A cross doesn't work on this vampire".
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Old 12 November 2013, 02:24 PM
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Oh, sure, if you want to start talking about movie vampires instead of real vampires...
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Old 12 November 2013, 02:42 PM
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Which vampires are we talking about? Sparkly ones? Broody ones? Snaggle-tooted ones?


What I've gathered from my multiple years of Vampire Research (AKA roleplaying) is that Vampires aren't affected by crosses per se, but by holy symbols, driven by faith. If the person brandishing the holy symbol has faith in that symbol, then it can be used to force the vampire back.

So a Star of David, the I-chin, a bough of Mistletoe or whatever, could all be effective vampire-hunter weapons. I guess if you really believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn, you could point to it's non-presence and drive out the undead that way.

If you don't believe, you're attached to another object by an inclined plane, wrapped helically around an axis. I believe it was in the book 'Salem's Lot' that the priest faith held off the vampires for a bit, but as he lost hope (and faith, Goodbye Kelly Ripa and Faith Ford) he became vulnerable.

Anyhoo, long rant, forgive me.
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Which is why you should always carry a large silver cross with cloves of fresh garlic tied to it, cover all the bases.
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Old 12 November 2013, 03:53 PM
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Are vampires Christian?

They seem to see a lot of significance in crosses.
The mediocre but cheesy fun vampire movie Dracula 2000 both subverts this and tries to explain with a not unclever twist they probably could have actuall done more with.

Long story short in this film it's discovered that Dracula is none other then Judas, forced to roam the Earth neither alive or dead, robbed of either heaven or hell. His aversion to crosses and silver are seen as ironic punishments to his betrayal of Jesus.
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Old 12 November 2013, 04:39 PM
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I believe the idea of vampires as descendants of Judas (or Dracula being Judas himself) may be much older than that. I found a Google Book copy of a fiction magazine from 1893 which talks about a Moldavian legend of the Children of Judas being malevolent creatures who can kill with a kiss.
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Are vampires Christian? They seem to see a lot of significance in crosses.
Actually, they hold significance to the vampire's putative (Christian) victims.
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Old 13 November 2013, 04:01 PM
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I knew the cross did not have to be consecrated or anything as Van Helsing used candlesticks to form a cross in "Horror of Dracula" (1958). If more modern filmmakers would stick to the facts as presented in those early documentaries, we would not have to differentiate between different types of vampires.

I did not realize the power was in the belief of the victim. So, basically anything could ward off a vampire if the victim believes the object holds significance. How Stephen King.

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I did not realize the power was in the belief of the victim.
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