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Old 03 November 2009, 06:43 PM
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Old 03 November 2009, 06:50 PM
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Here's the resolution.

Fleming and his co-sponsors, and pretty much all anti-public optioners, miss the point.

You get to *choose*, but you aren't forced into a public option if you like what you have.

I just hate stupid people so much.
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As far as I can tell, this wasn't a bill (HR 615 is about something entirely different); it's merely a resolution that was never passed:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:h.res.615:
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It's like they've all forgotten that OPTION means:

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op⋅tion
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–noun
1. the power or right of choosing.
2. something that may be or is chosen; choice.
3. the act of choosing.

4. an item of equipment or a feature that may be chosen as an addition to or replacement for standard equipment and features: a car with a long list of extra-cost options; a telephoto lens option for a camera.
5. stock option.
6. a privilege acquired, as by the payment of a premium or consideration, of demanding, within a specified time, the carrying out of a transaction upon stipulated terms; the right, as granted in a contract or by an initial payment, of acquiring something in the future: We bought one lot and took a 90-day option on an adjoining one.
7. Football. a play in which a back has a choice of either passing or running with the ball.
–verb (used with object)
8. to acquire or grant an option on: The studio has optioned his latest novel for film adaptation.
9. to provide with optional equipment: The car can be fully optioned at additional cost.
And just in case they've forgotten the definition of choice:

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1. an act or instance of choosing; selection: Her choice of a computer was made after months of research. His parents were not happy with his choice of friends.
2. the right, power, or opportunity to choose; option: The child had no choice about going to school.
3. the person or thing chosen or eligible to be chosen: This book is my choice. He is one of many choices for the award.
4. an alternative: There is another choice.
5. an abundance or variety from which to choose: a wide choice of candidates.
6. something that is preferred or preferable to others; the best part of something: Mare's Nest is the choice in the sixth race.
7. a carefully selected supply: This restaurant has a fine choice of wines.
8. a choice grade of beef.
–adjective
9. worthy of being chosen; excellent; superior.
10. carefully selected: choice words.
11. (in the grading of beef in the U.S.) rated between prime and good.
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12. of choice, that is generally preferred: A detached house is still the home of choice.
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I am correct in thinking that the referenced item isn't a "bill" or an "amendment," right? It's merely a resolution expressing the opinion that Congressmen who vote for a public option should agree to enroll in it (no matter how illogical that premise is)?
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I am correct in thinking that the referenced item isn't a "bill" or an "amendment," right? It's merely a resolution expressing the opinion that Congressmen who vote for a public option should agree to enroll in it (no matter how illogical that premise is)?
I think so. Bills and amendments, as I understand them, as well as "Recognition of November 3, 2009, as National Stop Stupid in Its Tracks Day"-type resolutions all start out as "resolutions."

Reading the link in my post above, it appears as if this wasn't ever meant to be a law or part of a law, but rather Congressman Fleming wanting his tantrum to be a part of the Congressional Record.
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