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Old 19 January 2013, 06:43 PM
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Icon07 School killers are all Democrats

Comment: Why is it that those who steal guns and kill movie goers and
children in school are always Democrats and not conservatives or NRA
members?

Ft. Hood shooter - Registered Democrat – Muslim

Columbine shooters - Too young to vote but both families were registered
Democrats and progressive liberals.

Virginia Tech shooter - Registered Democrat - Wrote hate mail to President
Bush and to his staff.

Colorado Theater shooter - Registered Democrat; staff worker on the Obama
campaign; Occupy Wall Street participant; progressive liberal.

Connecticut School Shooter - Registered Democrat; hated Christians.

Congresswoman Gabby Giffords’ shooter – Leftist, registered Democrat.

All of these shooters were progressive Democrats!

Why is that the media always tells us that conservative NRA-type
gun-owners are the real danger?

Lesson... Don't trust the media! Or politicians!
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Old 19 January 2013, 06:44 PM
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And male. Don't forget male.
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Old 19 January 2013, 07:03 PM
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And male. Don't forget male.
And unlike political or social leanings, the fact most are male can be definitively determined without wild extrapolation and drawing narrow conclusions from a widely variant data set.
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Old 19 January 2013, 06:59 PM
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Columbine shooters - Too young to vote but both families were registered
Democrats and progressive liberals.
While I can't say for sure what the political affiliations of either the Harris or Klebold families are/were, I can say that both boys came from families that appeared, basically, very All-American.

Eric Harris came from a fairly strict military family and Dylan Klebold's family was pretty active in their Lutheran church.

My copy of of Dave Cullen's book about Columbine is packed away, currently, but if I find it, I'll look and see if any mention of the families political affiliations is made.
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Old 21 January 2013, 12:10 PM
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While I can't say for sure what the political affiliations of either the Harris or Klebold families are/were, I can say that both boys came from families that appeared, basically, very All-American.

Eric Harris came from a fairly strict military family and Dylan Klebold's family was pretty active in their Lutheran church.
And while not an absolute truth, most military families tend to lean towards conservative and Republican. (Again, I am aware this is not an absolute truth, but given my own personal experiences and the current political affiliations of my former Army buddies.)

There is a website for Colorado where if you enter your first name, last night, zip code, and date of birth, you can pull up yours--or someone else's--political registration. Not knowing the DOB for any of the Klebolds or Harrises or their addresses (for all I know, they may not even be in the state anymore), I can't do this, so I'm wondering how somebody else suppsedly did. I don't know if this is information Colorado officials would just hand out upon request.

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Old 21 January 2013, 12:27 PM
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Besides the issue most have is with gun owners (or more accurately, guns). While I suspect that in general the majority of gun owners are conservative there are plenty who are not.

In addition in many of those cases there were failures in the system that allowed people to (as shown above) legally obtain guns for the purpose of killing others. While it's possible these people would have gotten guns illegally somehow if they couldn't legally at least we would have tried, and perhaps they would have gotten caught before the attacks. Heck if even one got caught earlier, or decided he couldn't successfully get a stolen gun, it would save lives.

If we had laws in place to regulate how people (particularly minors) bought guns, laws in place that regulated how guns are to be stored or better yet required biometric(?) triggers that determined who could use them we may have been able to avoid these tragedies without impacting how any law abiding Americans could purchase guns. If we went one step further and just made assault weapons out-and-out illegal (Save for, perhaps, special permits) then we likely could have reduced some of these as well with only minimal infringement on the gun rights of law abiding Americans.

Really it's a no brainer.
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Old 19 January 2013, 07:06 PM
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Virginia Tech shooter - Registered Democrat
I'm not sure how Seung-Hui Cho could have been a "registered Democrat" given that:

a) He was Korean national with permanent residency status, not a U.S. citizen.

b) He lived all of his adult life in Virginia, a state which does not record party affiliation in the voter registration process.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/204826
http://votesmart.org/elections/voter-registration/VA
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Old 19 January 2013, 07:42 PM
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I'm not sure how Seung-Hui Cho could have been a "registered Democrat" given that:
Duh. He was a school shooter. QED
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Old 19 January 2013, 08:34 PM
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Holmes purchased all his firearms legally

Klebold and Harris got someone to straw buy their guns for them.

Cho legally purchased his handguns

Loughner legally purchased his handgun

Hasan legally purchased his handgun

Lanza used a rifle legally purchased by his mother(who also took him to learn how to shoot) so guess it might of been stolen(or it might of been bought for him)

Of other shootings I'd looked up previously, the few times the weapons had been stolen was by minors from family members.

Westroads Mall shooting Omaha 2007- the rifle was stolen from the shooter's stepfather

Millard South Omaha 2011- The shooter took his father's handgun to kill my former English teacher.

Kip Kinkel- Weapons were legally purchased for him by his father

Sikh temple shooting- rifle legally purchased

Chadron High shooting- weapon stolen from his uncle

The DC Sniper's rifle was part of a group of firearms that went "missing" from a dealer in Seattle.
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Old 20 January 2013, 12:50 PM
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Klebold and Harris stole their firearms. One thing all but the Fort Hood terrorist shared was a history of mental problems or behavior that indicated mental illness.
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Old 21 January 2013, 05:06 AM
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Klebold and Harris stole their firearms.
No they didn't. Three of the weapons were purchased for them by a friend at a gun show (because they were too young to buy them on their own), and the other weapon was purchased from a fellow employee at the pizza place where they worked.
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Old 19 January 2013, 07:32 PM
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Congresswoman Gabby Giffords’ shooter – Leftist, registered Democrat.
He was registered Independent.
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Old 19 January 2013, 07:36 PM
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Facts are also Democrats, and should not be trusted.
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Facts are also Democrats, and should not be trusted.
Chloe FTW!

How dare they let facts get in the way of their rants?
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False flag operation. I think the shooters are registering as democrats before they go on the shooting spree.

See it's stupid both ways!!
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Old 21 January 2013, 06:54 AM
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Why is that the media always tells us that conservative NRA-type
gun-owners are the real danger?
Does "the media" actually do that?

My impression is that the conflict the anti-gun lobby has with the pro-gun lobby that NRA-sponsored legislation allows the wrong people to get guns (and subsequently use them in a devastating way), not the the actual NRA lobbyists (or even the NRA members) are the danger.

Anti-gun lobbyists want to ban guns, not ban the NRA.
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