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Forum: Soapbox Derby 11 July 2018, 04:28 AM
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Posted By thorny locust
Well, everything else has gone entirely wonky in...

Well, everything else has gone entirely wonky in USA politics. Maybe midterm turnout will also not conform to expectations.
Forum: Soapbox Derby 11 July 2018, 12:34 AM
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Posted By thorny locust
November . . . November . . . November . . . ...

November . . . November . . . November . . .


although for this, it has to be November 2020.
Forum: Soapbox Derby 10 January 2018, 09:17 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
Probably true of some people, crocoduck_hunter,...

Probably true of some people, crocoduck_hunter, but possibly not true of the Bundys, who have children also ranching and may well expect their descendents to do so indefinitely.

They may just not...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 10 January 2018, 04:19 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
For that matter, they're trying to keep a power...

For that matter, they're trying to keep a power that said white guys felt they'd had all along -- and had had, in practice, for probably over a century. Their keeping it wouldn't upend the old power...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 08 January 2018, 08:23 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
Charges Against Bundys in Ranch Standoff Case Are...

Charges Against Bundys in Ranch Standoff Case Are Dismissed (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/us/bundy-ranch-standoff-case-charges-dismissed.html)
Forum: Soapbox Derby 21 December 2017, 05:30 AM
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Posted By thorny locust
UEL, this mistrial doesn't seem to have had...

UEL, this mistrial doesn't seem to have had anything to do with the jury. It appears to have been declared by the judge, on grounds of prosecutorial misbehavior.



ETA: And what crocoduck_hunter...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 21 December 2017, 12:46 AM
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Posted By thorny locust
I really wish the prosecutors would get their act...

I really wish the prosecutors would get their act together about these people.
Forum: Soapbox Derby 03 November 2016, 03:19 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
dfresh, I had been wondering that also. ...

dfresh, I had been wondering that also.

According to the article crescent posted, quite a few people think they should have included the lesser charges:
Forum: Soapbox Derby 28 October 2016, 01:14 AM
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Posted By thorny locust
Good grief. -- are there other charges...

Good grief.

-- are there other charges pending on Ammon Bundy? Hope so; but, if not, why didn't the judge have to let him go?
Forum: Soapbox Derby 07 September 2016, 03:41 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
Trial Opens For Occupiers Of Oregon Wildlife...

Trial Opens For Occupiers Of Oregon Wildlife Refuge (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/07/492941644/trial-opens-for-occupiers-of-oregon-wildlife-refuge)
Forum: Soapbox Derby 19 July 2016, 03:53 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
Bumping the thread up for this: Feds: Oregon...

Bumping the thread up for this:

Feds: Oregon standoff leader plotted jail escape try (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/feds-oregon-standoff-leader-ryan-bundy-plotted-jail-escape-try/)
Forum: Soapbox Derby 27 March 2016, 10:50 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
I kind of suspect that's the whole idea, yes. ...

I kind of suspect that's the whole idea, yes.

And the last I looked, the federal government was elected and can be removed from power if citizens don't like the way it performs. Some of this seems...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 27 March 2016, 07:03 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
Some more on this, from links I came across in an...

Some more on this, from links I came across in an NPR story (links are not to NPR):

GOP Politicians Planned And Participated In Key Aspects Of Refuge Occupation...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 26 March 2016, 12:32 AM
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Posted By thorny locust
Another story on it here...

Another story on it here (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/25/471833029/photos-the-mess-occupiers-left-at-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge).

More pictures, and some quotes from the...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 09 March 2016, 10:48 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
Why? They seem to have gone to great...

Why?

They seem to have gone to great lengths, including allowing a good bit of damage to take place, in order to get as clean an arrest as possible. The DA, according to the article, thinks all...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 20 February 2016, 12:04 AM
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Posted By thorny locust
They kind of left out that he kicked the dog,...

They kind of left out that he kicked the dog, didn't they?

The dog was moving towards him; but probably because he was moving toward the handler in a threatening fashion.

(I'm partly faceblind....
Forum: Soapbox Derby 19 February 2016, 09:31 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
I have now watched that video. And I did not...

I have now watched that video. And I did not actually see any of that happening.

I saw a man on camera claiming that it had happened. (He also said he'd been hit by several trucks; despite which...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 19 February 2016, 06:07 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
From E. Q. Taft's link, quoting Ammon Bundy: ...

From E. Q. Taft's link, quoting Ammon Bundy:



Did any of that actually happen?

-- no time right now to go research it; but I don't remember any of that being reported.
Forum: Soapbox Derby 19 February 2016, 01:52 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
Good news, Gutter Monkey. Let's hope that finding...

Good news, Gutter Monkey. Let's hope that finding the cleanup crews etc. still working doesn't put them off nesting properly.

-- Linked to in that link:


Grant County sheriff viewed as...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 18 February 2016, 07:19 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
And the result might be that they woodchuck her...

And the result might be that they woodchuck her back in jail.
Forum: Soapbox Derby 18 February 2016, 06:46 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
Can she get the devil to show up in court to...

Can she get the devil to show up in court to testify?
Forum: Soapbox Derby 18 February 2016, 03:03 AM
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Posted By thorny locust
Just came across a report on progress of the...

Just came across a report on progress of the cleanup (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oregon-militia-occupiers-left-firearms-bombs-a-lot-of-poop/). Apparently among their other lacks of understanding...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 11 February 2016, 08:19 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
I expect a whole lot of people feel like yelling...

I expect a whole lot of people feel like yelling "hallelujah!" now that they're out of there.

Not, however, for the reasons Fry had in mind.



Be safe, firefighter_raven.

Have the sketchy...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 11 February 2016, 06:42 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
Is there such a person?

Is there such a person?
Forum: Soapbox Derby 11 February 2016, 01:58 PM
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Posted By thorny locust
Yeehah! Finally! -- now if they can just get...

Yeehah! Finally!

-- now if they can just get those last four out of the refuge. And will let the Paiute in on the cleanup and repairs.

And if the out-of-town demonstrators will go home and...
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