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Forum: Soapbox Derby 03 November 2016, 05:21 AM
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Posted By crescent
The Bundy Acquittal Isn’t Just Shocking—It’s Part...

The Bundy Acquittal Isn’t Just Shocking—It’s Part of a Pattern of Arrogant Bungling by the U.S. Attorney for Oregon...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 29 October 2016, 03:22 AM
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Posted By crescent
I still think one of the biggest differences is...

I still think one of the biggest differences is between federal vs local law enforcement. Sheriff Ward was the face of the LE response to Malheur, but the FBI was coordinating everything. Dakota...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 28 October 2016, 11:00 PM
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Posted By crescent
Opinion Was the Malheur occupation legal, or did...

Opinion Was the Malheur occupation legal, or did the feds botch the Bundy case? (http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-bundy-oregon-malheur-20161028-story.html)




It seems this was...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 28 October 2016, 05:53 PM
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Posted By crescent
Juror 4: Oregon standoff prosecutors failed to...

Juror 4: Oregon standoff prosecutors failed to prove 'intent' to impede federal workers (http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/juror_4_prosecutors_in_oregon.html)




The article...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 28 October 2016, 03:25 PM
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Posted By crescent
DOJ and FBI really dropped the ball on this. ...

DOJ and FBI really dropped the ball on this.

They failed to prosecute after Bunkerville, which made the Bundys and allies bolder. When Malheur happened, the Fed never actually ordered the Bundys...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 08 September 2016, 03:10 PM
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Posted By crescent
Most of them have public defenders. Ammon Bundy...

Most of them have public defenders. Ammon Bundy has donors that are paying for lawyers for him. Odd, lawyers with odd ideas - he might have been better off with public defenders. He seems to have a...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 20 February 2016, 02:00 AM
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Posted By crescent
Well, to be fair, you (and I) are probably a...

Well, to be fair, you (and I) are probably a member(s) of the "reality based" community. We tend to see things differently than the members of the "Bat-**** crazy" community, of which the Bundy clan...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 19 February 2016, 10:03 PM
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Posted By crescent
There were two women in the video who were...

There were two women in the video who were mentioned in the pro-Bundy propaganda. The one on the ground was the one with cancer. The younger one in the short-sleeved blue shirt (blond hair and...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 19 February 2016, 08:09 PM
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Posted By crescent
It happened. The "throwing" the woman to the...

It happened. The "throwing" the woman to the ground, the use of the dogs and the taser are in the Ranch Riot Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhJ6H9vlEDA). This happened about a week before the...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 11 February 2016, 05:48 PM
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Posted By crescent
Three in custody. The last one, David Fry is now...

Three in custody. The last one, David Fry is now refusing to surrender.
Forum: Soapbox Derby 11 February 2016, 03:44 PM
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Posted By crescent
The last four have stated that they will...

The last four have stated that they will surrender at 8:00 am local time, about 15 minutes from now.

There is a live video feed here (http://interactive.kgw.com/mobile/breaking-video-2.html),...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 09 February 2016, 03:42 PM
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Views: 223,686
Posted By crescent
Sigh. every time I think this is starting to wind...

Sigh. every time I think this is starting to wind down, something comes up. I had hoped that the arrests of Ammon Bundy and the others would have more affect than it did. A lot of people left the...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 05 February 2016, 08:28 PM
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Posted By crescent
Possibly also because four of them are not yet in...

Possibly also because four of them are not yet in custody, but are negotiating.

erwins might be the person who knows if it is possible for this grand jury to add more charges later (I have no...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 04 February 2016, 06:04 PM
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Views: 223,686
Posted By crescent
Federal grand jury indicts 16 people in Malheur...

Federal grand jury indicts 16 people in Malheur refuge takeover (http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/federal_indictment_against_amm.html#incart_big-photo)



:)
Forum: Soapbox Derby 03 February 2016, 11:15 PM
Replies: 589
Views: 223,686
Posted By crescent
I really thought the current confrontation would...

I really thought the current confrontation would fade away when Ammon Bundy was arrested.

I was wrong. :(

If the remaining four have the food supplies left behind when the others left, they...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 03 February 2016, 08:28 PM
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Posted By crescent
Ironically, journalists probably don't need...

Ironically, journalists probably don't need consent forms for photos or interviews taken in public. If they were using those forms, they were doing to to protect themselves from accusations of ...,...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 03 February 2016, 08:01 PM
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Posted By crescent
The "Crisis Actors...

The "Crisis Actors (http://www.snopes.com/same-girl-crying-now-oregon/)" conspiracy theory is all the rage up there right now. The Snopes entry refers to one particular accusation, but the idea that...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 01 February 2016, 08:20 PM
Replies: 589
Views: 223,686
Posted By crescent
Remember the old anti-war slogan "Suppose They...

Remember the old anti-war slogan "Suppose They Gave a War and No One Came?"

For these last four people, that question is not rhetorical anymore.
Forum: Soapbox Derby 30 January 2016, 03:09 PM
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Posted By crescent
The new CT from the militant supporters is that...

The new CT from the militant supporters is that Finicum was not reaching for a gun, but was instead reaching for the first bullet wound. He was "gut shot", or so they say.

Reality makes very...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 29 January 2016, 05:25 PM
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Views: 223,686
Posted By crescent
Finicum had a lot of foster kids. At first I...

Finicum had a lot of foster kids. At first I thought it was so he coul indoctrinate them, or for the money. Then the social services people revealed that he was only taking in kids with a certain set...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 28 January 2016, 04:21 PM
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Views: 223,686
Posted By crescent
Am I naive to think that a Federal law...

Am I naive to think that a Federal law enforcement operation in a rural area is going to be handled very differently that a municipal law enforcement operation in an urban area, regardless of the...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 28 January 2016, 03:14 AM
Replies: 589
Views: 223,686
Posted By crescent
There are only a handful left. David Fry is still...

There are only a handful left. David Fry is still trying to livestream (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNe1Tr7EspiDNeeiJuXC5QA). The latest one was a some of them sitting around a campfire. It...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 27 January 2016, 04:18 AM
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Posted By crescent
Aaaaand now Santilli is in custody too. ...

Aaaaand now Santilli is in custody too.

Arrested at the scene:
Ammon Bundy
Ryan Bundy (wounded by gunfire, not seriously)
Ryan W. Payne, It's okay to kill police guy
Brian Cavalier - Booda...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 25 January 2016, 08:01 PM
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Posted By crescent
I don't think they will annex a town. I think...

I don't think they will annex a town. I think they will annex another chunk of federal land, probably in Utah this time. They will do this so they can have some momentum.

They claim to have eight...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 25 January 2016, 04:42 AM
Replies: 589
Views: 223,686
Posted By crescent
The Sheriff of the neighboring county has thrown...

The Sheriff of the neighboring county has thrown in his lot with the Bundys.

Oregon standoff: Grant County sheriff urges release of Hammonds...
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