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Forum: Business Bytes 12 February 2019, 06:12 PM
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Posted By ASL
Reading Hidden city ticketing makes the news again:...

Hidden city ticketing makes the news again: Lufthansa sues passenger who missed his flight (https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/lufthansa-sues-passenger-scli-intl/index.html).


The article also...
Forum: Business Bytes 04 January 2015, 09:51 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
Spit Take I agree, it kind of assumes that it's 'wrong' (or...

I agree, it kind of assumes that it's 'wrong' (or at least unethical, which I tend to agree) but the article doesn't seem so decisive. I think it was just the shortest way they could convey the basic...
Forum: Business Bytes 03 January 2015, 08:59 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
No doubt. So, if the civil court system will...

No doubt. So, if the civil court system will allow it, suing some upstart internet company instead of the customer seems like a pretty good idea, all things considered, right? That's the twisted...
Forum: Business Bytes 03 January 2015, 05:49 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
Soapbox Most of that is the TSA. The things that aren't...

Most of that is the TSA. The things that aren't the TSA (weighing of baggage, dictating of schedules and, yes, even the convoluted and on the surface counterintuitive methods of fare determination)...
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 05:31 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
Well, it does result in lower fares and more...

Well, it does result in lower fares and more options for all involved, whether you want to go from A to B, A to C, or B to C, so... Yeah. It kind of is ethical, at least from a utilitarian point of...
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 04:54 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
I'll grant you that it's not unethical, IMHO, if...

I'll grant you that it's not unethical, IMHO, if there is no contract in place requiring them to fly their full itinerary.
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 04:47 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
In which case they'd still be losing money,...

In which case they'd still be losing money, albeit not as much, because, remember, they did generate a small profit off of the A to C via B tickets when they were just a little something extra added...
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 04:26 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
Fight But the A to C via B tickets, at least in my...

But the A to C via B tickets, at least in my example, only work if the fixed costs have already been accounted for by the more expensive A to B and B to C tickets. That's the point: if everyone paid...
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 04:03 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
Teacher Allow me to expand on overyonder's example and...

Allow me to expand on overyonder's example and take into account that some costs are fixed per flight and others are variable per passenger and assuming a flight at least breaks even, it opens up the...
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 03:24 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
I'm sure that's part of it, but consider that the...

I'm sure that's part of it, but consider that the airline might actually be accepting a loss (for all we know) if every passenger went from A to C via B (or even A to B!) at A to C via B rates and...
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 11:22 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
Oh, we're in agreement there. I also dislike...

Oh, we're in agreement there. I also dislike flying and have only flown once domestically in the last 7 years. That one time was because I needed to leave my car inTexas before coming to Bahrain and,...
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 10:36 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
Jaded I kind of hope they don't because the logical...

I kind of hope they don't because the logical conclusion would be for them to increase fares, perhaps to eliminate the incentive of hidden city ticketing altogether. Consumers who don't violate the...
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 10:13 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
Then presumably United has different business...

Then presumably United has different business practices.

ETA:
And in fact they are. From United's Contract of Carriage (http://www.united.com/web/format/pdf/Contract_of_Carriage.pdf), emphasis...
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 09:53 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
Read This! Perhaps, but I suspect it comes down to the fine...

Perhaps, but I suspect it comes down to the fine print. And expected of you by whom? If not the airline itself, but rather a 3rd party travel agency, how confident are you that United or any other...
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 07:28 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
And I'd argue they are. See my discussion of a...

And I'd argue they are. See my discussion of a hypothetical 10-hour itinerary from A to C via B vs a 2-hour itinerary from A to B.
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 07:18 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
Ponder They sell people tickets under the assumption...

They sell people tickets under the assumption that someone might well pay more for a 2-hour flight from A to B than for a pair of flights with 6 hours of layover in between for a grand total of 10...
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 06:46 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
Re: Cervus, it is cheating if it violates a...

Re: Cervus, it is cheating if it violates a contract entered into at the time of purchase that requires a good faith intent to execute the full itinerary.
Forum: Business Bytes 02 January 2015, 06:38 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 37,614
Posted By ASL
Read This! They're not selling a 2 for 1, though, they're...

They're not selling a 2 for 1, though, they're trying to make a profit, plugging some numbers into a table, and trying to figure out what optimum prices will give them the greatest profit based on...
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