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Forum: Rantidote 24 June 2018, 02:13 AM
Replies: 147
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Posted By ASL
If you really want to see something bordering on...

If you really want to see something bordering on Hitler's rise to power played out in the 21st century, take a look at what’s going on in Turkey right now.
Forum: Rantidote 24 June 2018, 12:00 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 6,411
Posted By ASL
You know Hitler got props from Hindenburg for the...

You know Hitler got props from Hindenburg for the night of the long knives?
Forum: Rantidote 23 June 2018, 08:22 PM
Replies: 147
Views: 6,411
Posted By ASL
Ponder For the record, I thought erwins asked a...

For the record, I thought erwins asked a perfectly reasonable question as I did not fully get what RichardM meant either. Was it an observation that Hitler was literally elected (which he wasn’t,...
Forum: Rantidote 23 June 2018, 02:22 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 6,411
Posted By ASL
Read This! I’ll forgo using equally snide remarks to educate...

I’ll forgo using equally snide remarks to educate you on the electoral college, as if that’s relevant, but then again... you know what? It kind of is.

Not that it changes anything, but no. No, the...
Forum: Rantidote 22 June 2018, 09:25 PM
Replies: 147
Views: 6,411
Posted By ASL
Read This! Then let us be thankful ours is also a...

Then let us be thankful ours is also a constitutional government with a much stronger democratic tradition than the Weimar Republic. Hey, you know which country still has laws against making comments...
Forum: Rantidote 22 June 2018, 04:04 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 6,411
Posted By ASL
No one is arguing that, at least not that I can...

No one is arguing that, at least not that I can see in this thread. What people are arguing, and is very off-putting, is that America is somehow uniquely depraved.

Kind of like if someone came in...
Forum: Rantidote 21 June 2018, 09:19 PM
Replies: 147
Views: 6,411
Posted By ASL
Please. Remember when minarets were banned in...

Please. Remember when minarets were banned in Switzerland? Face coverings in France? Roving bands of white supremesist thugs in Sweden? Yeah, that’s all pretty recent.

And don’t even get me...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 15 June 2018, 02:36 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
Reading Okay... I'm back! I'm back! I think our...

Okay... I'm back! I'm back!


I think our ability to protect and defend rights certainly does get affected by borders, which in my view (if a right is not protected/defended, it's practically...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 11 June 2018, 02:03 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
Skull Is that a fundamental disagreement, or is the...

Is that a fundamental disagreement, or is the fundamental disagreement whether or not you think all people have an undeniable/inalienable right to life? The latter seems more fundamental to me but,...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 11 June 2018, 01:26 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
Bear I've been sick, so I'll apologize now for making...

I've been sick, so I'll apologize now for making multiple posts as I catch up.


There is a difference between a scientist refusing to debate a theologian on an area that is a scientific matter...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 07 June 2018, 05:51 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
I could see that applying, but if it comes back...

I could see that applying, but if it comes back to the importance of a social construct some may distinguish between those who are a part of a society (even a minority/historically disadvantaged...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 07 June 2018, 05:18 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
Ponder I don't disagree, but then it comes down to what...

I don't disagree, but then it comes down to what constitutes justice.

If you have a right to life/liberty/property and someone deprives of one or more of those things, but society does nothing in...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 07 June 2018, 03:51 AM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
Computer 1) Who here, like, among those involved in this...

1) Who here, like, among those involved in this discussion, is arguing the pro-torture position?
2) Is there no other issue you can think of, maybe even mentioned in this thread, where the question...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 07 June 2018, 03:29 AM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
Ponder The practical implications of human rights,...

The practical implications of human rights, whether there is such a thing as natural human rights, and whether rights can be considered to exist in any meaningful sense absent recognition (and...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 06 June 2018, 12:50 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
Computer First, and this may come down to a difference in...

First, and this may come down to a difference in terms, debates as I understand them (back and forth, where we basically try to score points, accept that neither one of us will change our mind during...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 05 June 2018, 12:52 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
Icon108 If you want catharsis, great. If you want to have...

If you want catharsis, great. If you want to have a discussion... maybe don't look for catharsis in the same place. It seems like there's a lot of "catharsis" for some on this forum, but not so much...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 04 June 2018, 02:46 PM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
Reading Richard W, I think those are some good points,...

Richard W, I think those are some good points, and it's unfortunate that is seems to come down to something like (and I'm paraphrasing here) "we can't even talk with people we agree with."

BT
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Forum: Soapbox Derby 02 June 2018, 03:45 AM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
Military If I had to sum it up, I’d say there seems to be...

If I had to sum it up, I’d say there seems to be less "what do you believe and why?" and more "you [or some talking head/columnist] said you [they] agree with X, therefore you [they] would clearly...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 01 June 2018, 05:27 AM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
Bang Head The above comments, among others, are perhaps...

The above comments, among others, are perhaps illustrative of some of the difficulties faced in talking with "people we disagree with," even when not "on the most fundamental levels." Call it concern...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 31 May 2018, 02:38 AM
Replies: 173
Views: 6,637
Posted By ASL
Ponder Do you suppose that’s why so many of the...

Do you suppose that’s why so many of the conservative-ish members of the forum don’t post much anymore? I mean, it’s obviously technically true—they certainly aren’t a part of any conversations here,...
Forum: Police Blotter 29 April 2018, 01:21 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 2,385
Posted By ASL
Vanishing Do you mean to say you fell down the stairs,...

Do you mean to say you fell down the stairs, broke your leg, and the fracture grew over the course several days until the bone was poking through your leg? Was it even being treated before that?
...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 06 January 2018, 04:29 PM
Replies: 227
Views: 17,990
Posted By ASL
Vanishing Thanks for all the fish.

Thanks for all the fish.
Forum: Police Blotter 06 January 2018, 03:06 AM
Replies: 66
Views: 7,816
Posted By ASL
Ponder We just need something better than people to make...

We just need something better than people to make up our police forces is all. Well, that or something much less, something that no one will bat an eye over if it gets shot. Either way, some sort of...
Forum: Soapbox Derby 06 January 2018, 01:50 AM
Replies: 227
Views: 17,990
Posted By ASL
Devil Yep. And when religious group A and religious...

Yep. And when religious group A and religious group B both insist they are X, I will happily refer to them both as X and if they have a problem with that, I'll invite them to settle it between...
Forum: Police Blotter 06 January 2018, 01:21 AM
Replies: 66
Views: 7,816
Posted By ASL
Icon401 The trouble is that police seem to have been...

The trouble is that police seem to have been trained that at that point, it's already too late. Factoring in reaction time, if you wait to see the gun you're waiting to get shot, even if your gun is...
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