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E. Q. Taft 16 December 2013 09:41 PM

Bridgegate? Chris Christie's national ambitions could be hurt by GWB controversy
 
No one has publicly accused Christie of ordering two of his top appointees at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to close lanes to the world’s busiest bridge to get back at a Democratic mayor who wouldn't endorse his re-election bid.

But questions about the incident have fueled a scandal that even Christie’s masterful team of brand managers can’t make go away.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...ntroversy.html

GenYus234 16 December 2013 10:05 PM

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No one has publicly accused Christie of ordering two of his top appointees at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to close lanes to the world’s busiest bridge...
Not explicitly so, but we'll sure suggest the NFBSK out of it.

Also, hands up who thought this was an issue with the former President Bush?

A Turtle Named Mack 16 December 2013 10:08 PM

Democrats: "Looks like underhanded tricks to punish your political enemies - Hey, get off our turf!"

Steve 16 December 2013 10:13 PM

I'm just surprise about this part:
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the world’s busiest bridge
Now I have to look up if that's true. I once came home over the thing on Thanksgiving and it didn't take all that long.

ganzfeld 16 December 2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by A Turtle Named Mack (Post 1788580)
Democrats: "Looks like underhanded tricks to punish your political enemies - Hey, get off our turf!"

Good demonstration of the the tu quoque fallacy.

Avril 16 December 2013 10:59 PM

This is the weirdest story I've heard in a long time (and New Jersey politics are plenty weird). On the radio, they keep referring to Christie's "high school friend," and I keep envisioning a 17-year-old. Of course I know what they mean and I don't know why my mind always goes there.

Simply Madeline 16 December 2013 11:01 PM

Wow. Based on Christie's public persona, I never would have guessed he was a belligerent, vindictive a-hole. [/sarcasm]

ETA: alleged belligerent, vindictive, etc.

snopes 16 December 2013 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by A Turtle Named Mack (Post 1788580)
Democrats: "Looks like underhanded tricks to punish your political enemies - Hey, get off our turf!"

:rolleyes:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/200...ns-audit-naacp

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=14715290

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/articl...ce-2816927.php

E. Q. Taft 17 December 2013 01:45 AM

It's one of those things that seems silly, pointless, and unbelievable. Except they can't come up with an alternative explanation as to why the bridge lanes were closed. Originally they said something about a "traffic study" but apparently that didn't stand up under even slight scrutiny. (And of course, if it was all perfectly innocent, why have two people resigned over it...?)

No, it's hardly Watergate, but it's....weird.

crocoduck_hunter 17 December 2013 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GenYus234 (Post 1788577)
Also, hands up who thought this was an issue with the former President Bush?

*Raises hand*

Zorro 17 December 2013 11:59 AM

I'm certainly no fan of Governor Christie, but lanes are closed half the times I go over that bridge for whatever reason, so who really cares?

Dr. Dave 17 December 2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GenYus234 (Post 1788577)
Also, hands up who thought this was an issue with the former President Bush?

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snopes 17 December 2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by E. Q. Taft (Post 1788636)
It's one of those things that seems silly, pointless, and unbelievable. Except they can't come up with an alternative explanation as to why the bridge lanes were closed.

I'm still puzzled how this event was supposed to "punish" the mayor of Fort Lee, though. Are residents of Fort Lee really going to blame their mayor for lane closures on the GWB?

Ramblin' Dave 25 December 2013 03:15 PM

I don't know if this will hurt Christie much in the long term, but then I already didn't expect him to go over very well with GOP primary voters.

Steve 08 January 2014 03:09 PM

Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy -
 
Private messages between Governor’s Christie’s deputy chief of staff and two of his top executives at the Port Authority reveal a vindictive effort to create “traffic problems in Fort Lee” by shutting lanes to the George Washington Bridge and apparent pleasure at the resulting gridlock.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/chri...es_emails.html

snopes 08 January 2014 03:42 PM

Christie Aide: 'Time for Some Traffic Problems'
 
A top aide to Gov. Chris Christie told an executive at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey it was "time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee" before the authority closed lanes onto the George Washington Bridge in September, triggering a week of massive traffic jams, documents show.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...08331794186904

Rebochan 08 January 2014 06:46 PM

Wow. I still have family up in the Fort Lee area too. I had no idea about this.

Simply Madeline 09 January 2014 06:28 PM

Stories Add Up as Bully Image Trails Christie
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/25/ny...ing-image.html

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But the gesture would come to seem genteel compared with the fate suffered by others in disagreements with Mr. Christie: a former governor who was stripped of police security at public events; a Rutgers professor who lost state financing for cherished programs; a state senator whose candidate for a judgeship suddenly stalled; another senator who was disinvited from an event with the governor in his own district.

In almost every case, Mr. Christie waved off any suggestion that he had meted out retribution. But to many, the incidents have left that impression, and it has been just as powerful in scaring off others who might dare to cross him.

Now, the governor is dogged by another accusation of petty political revenge. Two close political allies ordered the abrupt shutdown of two local access lanes on the George Washington Bridge in September, gridlocking Fort Lee, N.J., for four days. The borough’s mayor said it was punitive because he had declined to endorse the governor’s re-election.

The governor mocked the suggestion as preposterous. But Democrats in New Jersey — and privately, some Republicans too — say it would hardly be out of character for Mr. Christie. As the governor prepares to run for president, the accusation has reinforced his reputation as a bully.

Rebochan 09 January 2014 07:10 PM

Wish this had come out before his re-election :(

snopes 09 January 2014 07:13 PM

Ah, he won by more than a 20% margin. I doubt the news would have changed much if it had come out before the election.


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