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Jenn 26 January 2011 03:36 PM

Santa Barbara's beach crosses (and the ACLU)
 
Comment: The first picture and the last picture are taken at The beach in
Santa Barbara right next to the pier. There is a veterans group that started
putting a cross And candle for every death in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The amazing thing is that they only do it on the weekends. They put up this
graveyard and take it down every Weekend. Guys sleep in the sand next to
it and keep Watch over it at night so nobody messes with it. Every cross has
the name, rank and D.O.B. And D.O.D. On it.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/militar...barbcross1.jpg

http://www.snopes.com/photos/militar...barbcross2.jpg

http://www.snopes.com/photos/militar...barbcross3.jpg

Very moving, very powerful??? So many young volunteers. So many 30 to 40
year olds as well. Amazing !

Did you know that the ACLU has filed a suit to have All military cross-shaped
headstones removed? And another suit to end prayer from the military completely.
They're making great progress. The Navy Chaplains can no longer mention
Jesus' name in Prayer thanks to the ACLU and our new administration.

I'm not breaking this one. If I get it a 1000 times, I'll forward it a 1000 times!

Please, let us pray...

Please send this on after a short prayer. Prayer for our Soldiers Don't break it!

Prayer:
'Heavenly Father, hold our troops in Your loving hands.
Protect them as they protect us Bless them and their
Families for the selfless acts they perform for us in this
Our time of need. These things I humbly ask in the name
Of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior,
Amen.'

GOD BLESS YOU FOR PASSING IT ON!

Jenn 26 January 2011 03:36 PM

The ACLU portion has been addressed here.

Kev 26 January 2011 03:51 PM

Assuming they meant Santa Monica instead of Santa Barbara, it looks like Arlington West.

These photos seem consistent with those on the website and according to the website they put up and take down all the crosses every Sunday.

Bettie Page Turner 26 January 2011 05:17 PM

In looking at the websites for Arlington West and Rethink Afghanistan (the organization name visible on the banner in one of the pics), it would seem that there is a bit of a disconnect between the spirit of these organizations and the "Real 'Merikun-God-Prayer-ACLU are kommies-Semper Fi" tone of the tacked on script.

Or is it just me?

Lainie 26 January 2011 05:21 PM

It's not just you. I see it.

WildaBeast 26 January 2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev (Post 1396858)
Assuming they meant Santa Monica instead of Santa Barbara, it looks like Arlington West.

I was in Santa Barbara on vacation last summer and I remember seeing a display like this there, too. The last picture definately looks like Santa Barbara to me. I bet there are pictures from both places here.

Kev 26 January 2011 06:28 PM

I see. When I searched for Santa Barbara, links for Santa Monica came up and I didn't dig much further and I couldn't really distinguish the locations in the pictures.

PallasAthena 26 January 2011 07:24 PM

We go to Santa Barbara a lot on weekends, and I don't recall ever seeing this. That doesn't mean it's not there. There's a whole lot of beach in SB. I just don't recall seeing it near where the pier is because that's the area we usually go to. (That and Hendry's, but I can't see someone putting this up there. It's a doggie beach.)

snopes 26 January 2011 07:31 PM

The same group (Veterans for Peace) has put up similar displays in Santa Barbara, but it appears to be an occasional activity rather than something done every weekend:

http://www.vfpsb.org/2009/11/next-aw-dec-6/

damian 26 January 2011 08:42 PM

It annoys me that anti-ACLU protesters fail to see their own hypocrisy. They (rightly) laud the soldiers for protecting your Constitution, but flail the ACLU for doing the same. :confused:

htonl 27 January 2011 12:22 AM

When I visited Santa Barbara, there was a display like that on the beach, next to the pier, on the right-hand side if you're looking seawards. As Bettie points out, the spirit of the display definitely seemed more in tune with that of the ACLU than with that of the OP.

As to this:
Quote:

Did you know that the ACLU has filed a suit to have All military cross-shaped
headstones removed? And another suit to end prayer from the military completely.
They're making great progress. The Navy Chaplains can no longer mention
Jesus' name in Prayer thanks to the ACLU and our new administration.
I would say, "Cite, please."

chillas 27 January 2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian (Post 1397201)
It annoys me that anti-ACLU protesters fail to see their own hypocrisy. They (rightly) laud the soldiers for protecting your Constitution, but flail the ACLU for doing the same. :confused:

Brave men and women died for your rights, and if you want to honor their sacrifice you will SUBMIT WITHOUT QUESTION!

Errata 30 January 2011 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev (Post 1396858)
Assuming they meant Santa Monica instead of Santa Barbara, it looks like Arlington West.

The original Arlington West was, and still is, in Santa Barbara. The one in Santa Monica is one of many copies. It's hard to tell with relatively featureless beach, but these pictures are not inconsistent with the beach near Stearn's Wharf where these normally appear.

I've seen it before, but not frequently. Maybe I just don't find myself there at the right time of the week. I didn't know until just now that the installation had a name. It's not uncommon to see peace protestors doing stuff (although less so than earlier in the war), and this is just one example.


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