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snopes 16 February 2015 12:55 AM

Dennis the Menace
 
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Furienna 10 April 2015 11:56 PM

I'm sure that people will hate me for saying this, but I don't see what's so bad about the second picture of Jackson. And I don't see how a comic strip, no matter how insensitive it might be to some people, can justify throwing stones through windows or attacking innocent paper boys.

GenYus234 11 April 2015 12:17 AM

The second picture is less offensive, but it still keeps the exaggerated lips common to black stereotypes. It is particularly an issue because no other Dennis the Menace character has drawn lips (except his mother, who appears to be wearing lipstick). If it hadn't been for the first attempt "priming the pump", this second one might not have drawn as much ire but it still has issues. Agreed that violence or destruction is never an appropriate response.

Furienna 11 April 2015 01:08 AM

Yeah, the first one was much worse. But it seems like black characters still are drawn with thick lips in cartoons and comics. I'm glad to see though that you agree with me about the destruction and violence.

Lainie 11 April 2015 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furienna (Post 1867873)
I'm sure that people will hate me for saying this, but I don't see what's so bad about the second picture of Jackson. And I don't see how a comic strip, no matter how insensitive it might be to some people, can justify throwing stones through windows or attacking innocent paper boys.

You have a very low opinion of your fellow snopesters. :(

Furienna 11 April 2015 01:18 AM

I'm sorry, but I have gotten into arguements about racial issues here before, even though I never meant to offend anybody.

Lainie 11 April 2015 01:38 AM

And people said they hated you? I'm surprised and disappointed to hear that. ETA: But there's really no need to apologize to me for your opinions.

Furienna 11 April 2015 01:48 AM

Maybe they didn't hate me, but there was so much anger.

Lainie 11 April 2015 01:51 AM

It can be a very emotional topic in the US. Anger and other strong emotions aren't always aimed personally at whoever someone's disagreeing with, though.

I hope no one here was advocating violence over something as trivial as a Dennis the Menace cartoon. That's not something I've ever encountered here but I don't read every discussion, of course.

Furienna 11 April 2015 02:05 AM

Yes, it seems to be a very emotional topic. That is why I was afraid of people getting angry.

Nobody here advocated violence, but it seems like terrible things happened back then, when the strip first was published. And yeah, even though I can see that the first version of Jackson was a crude stereotype, that must have been out-of-date already in 1970, crashing windows and threatening editors and attacking paper boys was a bad way to handle the situation.

Lainie 11 April 2015 05:21 PM

Well yes, obviously.

It was far from the first or the most egregious example of violence related to racism in the US, though. I don't approve, but I'll save my outrage for lynchings and the wholesale destruction of black neighborhoods by white mobs (to name just two examples, and leaving out 300 years of slavery and the hideous violence associated with it).

UEL 12 April 2015 02:21 AM

Race relations is perhaps the most American topic in history.

ganzfeld 12 April 2015 03:55 AM

I don't really get what you mean by that. It's been a global topic for centuries and has played an important role in the histories of many countries.

Jusenkyo no Pikachu 01 July 2015 04:41 PM

Yeah, but where the Yanks have To Kill A Mockingbird and In the Heat of the Night, we Aussies have Rabbit Proof Fenceand Bran Nue Dae

urbanlegendfanatic 07 July 2015 10:03 PM

All countries have their share of racist history. Canada had slavery - they only abolished it 1833. Canada's history of racism against it's indigenous people is well documented - search for Canada’s First Nations: A Legacy of Institutional Racism. http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/o...out-of-mind-2/

Camx 20 November 2015 03:47 PM

The question is, do kids even know who Dennis the Menace is anymore?

blinkingblythe 16 April 2016 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snopes (Post 1861299)

The first one is real bad, like it came straight out of a racist minstrel show.

Kyle Connor 29 December 2016 08:06 AM

Only the 90's kids know who Dennis the Menace is.

Jusenkyo no Pikachu 11 March 2018 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camx (Post 1896547)
The question is, do kids even know who Dennis the Menace is anymore?

Yeah…he’s that horrible British bully with the weird-sounding dog, right?

Actually, my nephew has recently gotten into watching the 1993 movie on Netflix.


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