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Artemis 27 May 2010 05:57 PM

Fake anti-Victoria's Secret lingerie ad?
 
Some people are saying it's Lane Bryant putting it out but others aren't so sure. It certainly doesn't look all that professional.

Anyway, doesn't seem all that funny or original. And just seems stupid. I mean, bigger people wouldn't like it if someone spoofed a Lane Bryant ad by putting cows in bras.

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Aimee Evilpixie 27 May 2010 06:11 PM

Hating on skinny people is just as bad as hating on fat people. We can critique the unrealistic body standards in Victoria's Secret ads without insulting the models themselves, or the women who are small enough to wear VS lingerie.

(Incidentally, I bought some underpants there the other day because they were recommended to me here to avoid some problems with leg-digging I'd been having. The underpants work great, but I'm wearing their size large. It is completely ridiculous that their size large is so small.)

Artemis 27 May 2010 06:13 PM

It is ridiculous. I'm small--like I usually wear a 0, or at most, a 4 at some places. I'm the only person I know for whom an XS is often too big (yeah, XXS!). But I wear a medium at Victoria's Secret. I mean, I could wear the small but it's fairly tight. It's kind of insane.

Natalie 27 May 2010 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Aimee Evilpixie (Post 1225700)
Hating on skinny people is just as bad as hating on fat people. We can critique the unrealistic body standards in Victoria's Secret ads without insulting the models themselves, or the women who are small enough to wear VS lingerie.

Indeed. I doubt the models or customers were consulted when VS determined their sizing. This average-sized woman would prefer they stay within the more recognized range, so I know what the NFBSK to buy!

Jay Temple 27 May 2010 06:38 PM

My favorite line from the "ad" was the reference to Fox and ABC. My favorite comment was about the model: "I'd bone her."

GenYus234 27 May 2010 07:39 PM

Shouldn't the skeleton have two bags of silicone on the ribcage? I mean, if we are going to use the stereotype...

TrishDaDish 28 May 2010 10:23 PM

Along with the silicone, shouldn't some of her ribs be missing as well?

Wild Redhead 28 May 2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Artemis (Post 1225678)
Anyway, doesn't seem all that funny or original. And just seems stupid. I mean, bigger people wouldn't like it if someone spoofed a Lane Bryant ad by putting cows in bras.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aimee Evilpixie (Post 1225700)
Hating on skinny people is just as bad as hating on fat people. We can critique the unrealistic body standards in Victoria's Secret ads without insulting the models themselves, or the women who are small enough to wear VS lingerie.


I don't think the ad was aimed at the models or "skinny people". I think they are taking a jab at the Victorias Secret company and how they catalog women.

I went in there one time to buy my sons girlfriend a gift certificate. I'm a heavy woman. You should have seen the looks I got. Not from other customers but from the employees.

Spam & Cookies-mmm 28 May 2010 11:07 PM

Lane Bryant says they "did not produce nor endorse" this video.
http://insidecurve.lanebryant.com/bu...-vs-ad-parody/

(But they did post it.)

Aimee Evilpixie 28 May 2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild Redhead (Post 1226768)
I don't think the ad was aimed at the models or "skinny people". I think they are taking a jab at the Victorias Secret company and how they catalog women.

They replaced a model with a skeleton. I don't really see how that's not comparing VS models with skeletons.

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I went in there one time to buy my sons girlfriend a gift certificate. I'm a heavy woman. You should have seen the looks I got. Not from other customers but from the employees.
Yeah, that kind of thing is bullshit. It's totally ridiculous that their sizes are so limited, but we can point out how stupid and damaging that is without comparing their models to skeletons.

Blatherskite 31 May 2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Aimee Evilpixie (Post 1226785)
They replaced a model with a skeleton. I don't really see how that's not comparing VS models with skeletons.

Reading some of the comments here about their ridiculous sizing, I suppose the joke could be that to Victoria's Secret even their skinny models aren't quite 'perfect' enough so they had to get this 'new' look in stock - enter America's Next Top Anatomy Model.

Critterbites 01 June 2010 07:30 PM

I took the (tasteless, juvenile, unfunny) ad parody to be a stab at ABC's and Fox's refusal to air the Lane Bryant ad showing a plus-size woman in the same state of undress as most models in Victoria's Secret commericials. I think it was the producers' attempt at saying, "Cleavage is bad? OK, how about no cleavage anywhere, of any kind? How about no skin? Happy now?" (stick out tongue)

I am in Lane Bryant's target market, btw, but not a current customer. I'm limited to Wal-Mart-priced fashion at present.

Artemis 01 June 2010 07:53 PM

I can't tell if Lane Bryant actually made it, though. The production values seem way too low for them, too...

rmorrison100 01 April 2011 11:06 AM

I agree with you Aimee. I think just respect the ad and don't do something insulting even if you don't like it.

Mickey Blue 03 April 2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild Redhead (Post 1226768)
I went in there one time to buy my sons girlfriend a gift certificate. I'm a heavy woman. You should have seen the looks I got. Not from other customers but from the employees.

YMMV I guess, my fiancee likes their products and as such we often stop there when we are out and about near the mall. I've seen many large women in there (I am incapable of judging size from looks and honestly even if I were size of women's clothing seems to have no real meaning) and they were all treated promptly and with the same service and respect we always get. Don't misunderstand, I'm not calling you a liar, just pointing out the anecdote problem, in addition if people go in there anticipating bad service due to their weight they may see things that aren't there, or at least over exaggerate things that are (again not saying that you do, but it is something people tend to do).

-MB

Latiam 03 April 2011 05:20 PM

I find VS catalogues kind of weird. It looks like they have taken their models and stretched their torsos by computer imagery. Either that or they've made them entirely thinner by the same sort of stretching process.
Their proportions are all wrong. They just look odd. I found it very hard to concentrate on the bras, to be honest. I just kept looking at the picture at a whole and thinking that something was off.
If course, there's no VS here anyway...

Gutter Monkey 03 April 2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Aimee Evilpixie (Post 1226785)
They replaced a model with a skeleton. I don't really see how that's not comparing VS models with skeletons.

It's a parody of a VS ad and a satire on the prevailing attitudes at Fox and ABC, not a commentary on skinny women everywhere.

Aimee Evilpixie 03 April 2011 05:55 PM

But if one is as thin as a Victora's Secret model, how exactly does an ad like this say anything other than "skinny women might as well be skeletons"? Someone on this board once made the comment "who wants an ironing board?" Yeah, sure, maybe he didn't mean me, but that's a pretty insulting thing to say.

geminilee 03 April 2011 06:08 PM

I am with Aimee. It may be a parody and satire, but that does not prevent it from also being a slam on VS models, and by extension women who are able to shop at VS.

It is also a kind of body-hate zen: decry unrealistic images that make women feel bad about themselves by using unrealistic images that make women feel bad about themselves. Fight the socially implied insult to average-to-heavier women by insulting thin women.

Gutter Monkey 04 April 2011 09:34 AM

I'm a violin player and I'm also very very angry at the film Spinal Tap for they way they portray musicians as being stupid. RARRR why they gotta be hating on people like me??? I practiced really hard to be good at the violin, screw those guys for calling me stupid!

Also I'm really angry at the Monty Python sketch about the Ministry of Silly Walks because I occasionally transport myself via the use of my legs. RARR why didn't Monty Python think about how I'd feel when they made that sketch?!? How inconsiderate of them!!!

:rolleyes:


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