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A Turtle Named Mack 04 April 2018 01:10 PM

Detroit Zoo is giving away free buckets of poop
 
The Detroit Zoo is luring visitors with the temptation of a free bucket of animal poop.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...ung/481179002/

musicgeek 04 April 2018 03:29 PM

My high school biology teacher used to swear by the merits of "zoo doo" obtained from the local zoo - in his case, he got buckets of predator feces to mix with water and spread around the perimeter of his garden to repel deer and other foragers.

Aud 1 04 April 2018 04:00 PM

We got a rabbit last fall and my composter is now completely filled with bunny poop. I hear it is supposed to be amazing for gardens.

overyonder 04 April 2018 04:47 PM

Reminder to not use manure from flesh-eating animals in your vegetable garden.

OY

crocoduck_hunter 04 April 2018 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by musicgeek (Post 1975869)
My high school biology teacher used to swear by the merits of "zoo doo" obtained from the local zoo - in his case, he got buckets of predator feces to mix with water and spread around the perimeter of his garden to repel deer and other foragers.

That will work for a while, but eventually the deer learn that there isn't actually a large carnivore there and will go back to eating the garden.

GenYus234 04 April 2018 05:18 PM

And that's when you "borrow" the actual predator from the zoo.

Alarm 04 April 2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GenYus234 (Post 1975880)
And that's when you "borrow" the actual predator from the zoo.

Can't you just make a robot one?
:fish:

musicgeek 04 April 2018 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by crocoduck_hunter (Post 1975878)
That will work for a while, but eventually the deer learn that there isn't actually a large carnivore there and will go back to eating the garden.

I also wondered at the time if tiger poop was necessarily an effective deterrent for North American species. I imagine that there's a general "carnivorous" odor to it, but I would think that coyote, etc. (something we have as a native species) would be more effective.

GenYus234 04 April 2018 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Alarm (Post 1975882)
Can't you just make a robot one?
:fish:

I've seen enough movies to know that any plan whose result is "robot predator" is probably not going to turn out well. And since the first victim is usually the creator, defiantly not well for me.

Alarm 04 April 2018 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GenYus234 (Post 1975890)
I've seen enough movies to know that any plan whose result is "robot predator" is probably not going to turn out well. And since the first victim is usually the creator, defiantly not well for me.

Oh come on, it can't be that bad....
What have you got to lose?

:p

Besides, robots don't poop, so you get the benefit of a pseudo predator's presence, without the smell of spreading it's poop in your yard!

jimmy101_again 04 April 2018 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by musicgeek (Post 1975888)
I also wondered at the time if tiger poop was necessarily an effective deterrent for North American species. I imagine that there's a general "carnivorous" odor to it, but I would think that coyote, etc. (something we have as a native species) would be more effective.

I would think the poop of a carnivore is quite distinctive, certainly distinct from a herbivore. Completely different food in, completely different poop out. Detecting the poop of a generic carnivore would be a much more likely inheritable trait than detecting the poop from a particular carnivore, even if local, like a wolf.

On the other hand, if a particular deer had first hand knowledge of wolfs then that odor would probably be long remembered. (But not inheritable.)

Tootsie Plunkette 04 April 2018 08:15 PM

Woodland Park's "Zoo Doo" is so popular they have a lottery (or at least have done in the past) to determine who gets a bag. I believe it's not just raw poop, but is composted.

crocoduck_hunter 04 April 2018 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy101_again (Post 1975896)
I would think the poop of a carnivore is quite distinctive, certainly distinct from a herbivore. Completely different food in, completely different poop out. Detecting the poop of a generic carnivore would be a much more likely inheritable trait than detecting the poop from a particular carnivore, even if local, like a wolf.

On the other hand, if a particular deer had first hand knowledge of wolfs then that odor would probably be long remembered. (But not inheritable.)

Pretty much this. The odor of digested meat is sufficiently similar to produce the same response whether it's big cat or wolf feces. Though as deer aren't used to being preyed upon by large reptiles I suppose a Komodo dragon's poop wouldn't produce such a deterrent response.

thorny locust 05 April 2018 01:19 AM

I would think that using scent of a carnivore prevalent in the area might attract other members of that carnivore species.

crocoduck_hunter 05 April 2018 02:52 AM

Unless you live in Montana or rural Idaho, wolves aren't too likely to be around to be attracted. And mountain lions are pretty solitary.

Lainie 05 April 2018 12:27 PM

I'd avoid using coyote poop.

thorny locust 05 April 2018 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crocoduck_hunter (Post 1975914)
Unless you live in Montana or rural Idaho, wolves aren't too likely to be around to be attracted. And mountain lions are pretty solitary.

Coyote, however, are all over the place; at least, if the place is most of North America.

Lainie 05 April 2018 03:00 PM

And around here, foxes have been observed to be hanging out closer to homes/humans, to avoid the coyotes.

crocoduck_hunter 05 April 2018 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thorny locust (Post 1975950)
Coyote, however, are all over the place; at least, if the place is most of North America.

Wolf poop will definitely keep coyotes away. Though being a lot smarter than deer they'll probably become habituated to it faster.

Dr. Winston O'Boogie 05 April 2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tootsie Plunkette (Post 1975898)
Woodland Park's "Zoo Doo" is so popular they have a lottery (or at least have done in the past) to determine who gets a bag. I believe it's not just raw poop, but is composted.

If the lottery is audited, would that be a Zoo Doo Review?

Sorry for the pun, I'll get it: :fish:


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