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snopes 25 June 2009 06:21 PM

Blue door = marriageable Amish female
 
Comment: The Blue Door rumor

I've heard from multiple people that the Amish paint their doors blue to
advertise they have a wife to wed. It sounds a little bizarre and
unorthodox to me, but 4 different people have sworn up and down to me that
this is true because they're trying to produce offspring with those
outside their community to avoid inbreeding, since it has become a social
stigma as well as producing unhealthy offspring. I didn't find anything
on the site about the Blue Door rumor, can you confirm this as fact or
fiction?

Auntie Witch 25 June 2009 06:51 PM

I have never seen an Amish home with a blue door. So for this part of Mo, at least, I'd say the rumor is false. However, the concern about inbreeding is a very real concern here. I know some Amish move to other areas, sometimes even out of the state, to find spouses.

Lainie 25 June 2009 07:05 PM

I don't see how the blue door would help with the inbreeding issue, since any Amish person who sees the door would almost certainly be part of the same community, and they're not interested in marrying their daughters off to English (non-Amish) men.

The Amish are, as AW said, very concerned about inbreeding, because they've been stricken with some very nasty genetic diseases. But the solution to that is to import spouses from other Amish communities, or to relocate families to those other communities.

snopes 25 June 2009 07:20 PM

The OP is kind of confusingly worded. I'm not sure whether the blue door is supposed to mean "I have a daughter I want to marry off" or "I want a non-Amish man to impregnate my wife."

Sue Bee 25 June 2009 07:29 PM

From Amish Life FAQs (a reputable source, I am sure):

Quote:

Question: Is it true that the Amish paint the front door of their homes blue to show that they have a daughter available to be wed?

Answer: No. The Amish live in large, comfortable houses that are painted white. They would not "decorate" their front door and they would not advertise that a daughter is available for marriage. Amish courtship is a rather private event. Amish youth socialize in groups whenever possible at an evening youth gathering after chores are finished, Sunday afternoon gatherings after church and for the traditional Sunday evening hymn singings. Relationships that lead to marriage usually are formed during these activities. Open dating does not take place but the boy and girl have time to talk after church services, at barn raisings and frolics, picnics and youth activities such as volleyball and baseball. While a girl will not ride with a boy to a Sunday evening singing, she will ride home with him afterwards in the dark. The boy will visit at her house only at night after the parents have gone to bed. This courtship, usually conducted in secret, has become more open with New Order Amish in recent years.

snopes 25 June 2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

While a girl will not ride with a boy to a Sunday evening singing, she will ride home with him afterwards in the dark. The boy will visit at her house only at night after the parents have gone to bed.
I'm disappointed these weren't the norms of non-Amish society when I was a teenager ...

Sue Bee 25 June 2009 08:01 PM

I am glad that I didn't have to go to Sunday evening singing. And frankly, I am sure that anyone that would have been in earshot is also glad. They may not know it, but they are.

granola shoes 25 June 2009 08:07 PM

Well, looks like you all have your answer, but I was just going to add that in my experience with my Amish relatives, I have never seen a blue door, nor heard of this mentioned (and I've been to an Amish wedding) - as the FAQ link says, that's a little too flashy ;)

DoubleNaughtSaleen 26 June 2009 12:47 AM

The only blue door rumor I've heard is to keep someone from "workin the roots" on you.

TrishDaDish 26 June 2009 08:19 PM

Dang. I have a painted blue door (okay, it's always been that color) and a white rock at the end of our driveway. I wanted people to think I was a Amish swinger.

snopes 05 September 2009 04:33 PM

Comment: Being from Pennsylvania, we live near a lot of Amish people.
There is a rumor that we consider highly unlikely, and we would like to
help dispell rumors about our friendly but reclusive neighbors if it is
not true.

Since Amish people do not marry outside of their faith, there is a danger
of inbreeding when they marry within their own community. The rumor
states that Amish husbands sometimes recruit non-Amish men to mate with
their wives, since they don't believe in artificial insemination. The
rumor also states that the husband MUST be present during the act.

Considering how conservative the Amish people are, this seems to be a bit
outlandish, but it would make sense if they want to solve their problems
with genetic defects.

Ana Ng 05 September 2009 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sue Bee (Post 985522)
They would not "decorate" their front door and they would not advertise that a daughter is available for marriage.

I didn't even think of it this way initially but it's a good point. These people won't use zippers because they're "fancy" (read:decoration) so it's not like ease of use or even necessity come in to play. If they badly needed "English" sperm, they still wouldn't use "fancy" means to get it from what I know.

snopes 28 March 2012 07:30 PM

Amish seek sex
 
Comment: My boyfriend's cousin said around where he lives, Northern
Indiana, that there are ads in the newspaper from the Amish offering money
for "new genes." Basically because the Amish are such a small group, they
are becoming inbred, and therefore are offering money to non-Amish men to
have sex with their wives and/or daughters for reproductive purposes only
in order to cut down on the inbreeding. I've heard this more than once
from different people.

I find it hard to believe as the Amish are very religious and
conservative, but perhaps there is some truth to it? That, or it's just
some young men telling tall tales of getting paid to have sex.

FullMetal 28 March 2012 08:01 PM

I've heard that about the Hutterites around here with the same story. I think this definitely falls into the urban legend category, as even though this was supposedly "commonplace" I've never heard of anyone ever actually doing it. Considering Hutterites are a religious folk, and extramarital sex is frowned upon, and if I understand correctly the Amish are also quite religious... This might not be very well accepted by them.

kjbrasda 29 March 2012 05:31 AM

It is true they have problems with small gene pools, but their usual solution is moving. Which is how many of the Amish around us got here.

SatansHobbit 29 March 2012 05:58 AM

I managed to read this thread and did not think of Kelly McGillis at all...uh huh..not me..not even once. http://message.snopes.com/images/icons/icon218.gif

A curse on this damned vasectomy!

Not_Done_Living 16 April 2012 09:14 PM

Geez Shobbit -- if they pay per attempt, the two of us could make a killing ;)

fitz1980 16 April 2012 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjbrasda (Post 1608242)
It is true they have problems with small gene pools, but their usual solution is moving. Which is how many of the Amish around us got here.

That's what I had heard; that every now and than there are big migrations where many members of Amish communities in one area will uproot and move to other Amish communities and vice-versa to mix up the gene pool.

stoolie 17 April 2012 09:41 PM

One for SHobbit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitz1980 (Post 1614549)
...where many members of Amish communities in one area will uproot...

Is that when she is on top? :fish:

Morgaine 29 June 2012 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitz1980 (Post 1614549)
That's what I had heard; that every now and than there are big migrations where many members of Amish communities in one area will uproot and move to other Amish communities and vice-versa to mix up the gene pool.

That's pretty accurate. My DHs family lives in an area with a Mennonite population (Amish with cars). Apparently around the time we were married several men from that community went up to a community in Canada to find wives. Some men from the Canadian community came to the in-laws area for the same reason. I do remember them saying that one of the reasons was that they were worried about becoming too close geneticly.


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