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snopes 07 January 2008 07:04 PM

"Tramp stamp" = anal sex
 
Comment: I am writing to ask you to disillusion millions of men
everywhere.

I'm talking about the "Tramp Stamp" myth. Many men believe that when a
woman gets a tattoo on her lower back, it means that she is willing to do
anal.

I've asked around to all of my friends. None of us had that in mind when
we got our tattoos. Frankly, if we knew that would be the assumption, we
wouldn't have gotten them. The reason so many girls get tattoos on their
lower backs is because it's easily hidden in formal situations, and it
will not stretch when you gain weight--with pregnancy, for instance.

A tattoo on your legs or shoulder is impossible to hide in most formal
dresses, and a tattoo on your stomach or breasts is going to stretch and
look really bad when you are old.

None of the girls with tattoos on their lower backs that I've spoken to
have gotten them in order to indicate a willingness to have Anal Sex.
Heck, most of the ones I've spoken to have had to have some really
annoying conversations with men because of it. This is especially
annoying for those who got their tattoos before they were common, in the
early nineties.

PLEASE publish something. It won't stop everyone, but I have noticed that
when something is on Snopes, you can direct people to it and they believe
you.

MidgardDragon 07 January 2008 07:10 PM

The version of the "tramp stamp" myth I heard said that a woman with said tattoo on her lower back "wants you to cum on her tattoo". It is just as stupid as this one, but at least I can see where that one's coming from. Why would a tramp stamp indicate anal sex? Couldn't just as easily indicate "doggy style"?

I think it's really rude and disgusting to assume that a lower back tattoo has any sexual connotations (unless of course it says "I Like Anal" or something), and I generally wouldn't associate with a crowd who believes in such tripe.

Tarquin Farquart 07 January 2008 07:10 PM

I thought lower backs were popular locations for tattoos because they can be covered or revealed as mood demands. Like ankles.

A Turtle Named Mack 07 January 2008 07:16 PM

... now maybe if it had an arrow and it said 'entrance in rear' :o

putitinwriting 07 January 2008 07:51 PM

The best non-judgmental label I've heard for common lower-back tattoos is "ass antlers". Descriptive, without any of that "tramp" BS.

Lancastrian 08 January 2008 12:44 PM

This is probably just an extension of calling them "tramp stamps" anyway. Lower back tatt = slutty girl = more likely to let you stick it up her bum. Ugh.

Zachary Fizz 08 January 2008 01:11 PM

Back in my bachelor days, I discovered that many women like to communicate their preferences (and not just sexual ones) by using a clever technique which I have chosen to call just bloody telling you what they want, in plain English. I still cherish hopes of getting a Nobel prize when I publish a paper on it. I think I'll entitle it "The amazing secret: women's use of verbalised modes of communication to transmit their thoughts, opinions and desires to others' brains". I'm hoping that George Clooney will play me when they make a film about my discovery, though Brad Pitt will do, I guess.

Obviously using their powers of speech is far less reasonable than some obscure code involving getting tattooed just above the buttocks, but there's no understanding women....

UEL 08 January 2008 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachary Fizz (Post 462807)
Back in my bachelor days, I discovered that many women like to communicate their preferences (and not just sexual ones) by using a clever technique which I have chosen to call just bloody telling you what they want, in plain English.

Funnily enough, that's exactly what I needed when I was in my bachelor days. I could not tell at all that some girl was flirting with me. Short of telling me that she wanted to get me alone, I just thought she was being nice.

To hell with secret symbols. I'm all for overt messaging!

CannonFodder 08 January 2008 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachary Fizz (Post 462807)
Back in my bachelor days, I discovered that many women like to communicate their preferences (and not just sexual ones) by using a clever technique which I have chosen to call just bloody telling you what they want, in plain English.

I've found the opposite to be true.

Tarquin Farquart 08 January 2008 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachary Fizz (Post 462807)
Back in my bachelor days, I discovered that many women like to communicate their preferences (and not just sexual ones) by using a clever technique which I have chosen to call just bloody telling you what they want, in plain English.

I need more that: diagrams, pie charts, illustrations.

Zachary Fizz 08 January 2008 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UEL (Post 462814)
Funnily enough, that's exactly what I needed when I was in my bachelor days. I could not tell at all that some girl was flirting with me. Short of telling me that she wanted to get me alone, I just thought she was being nice.

To hell with secret symbols. I'm all for overt messaging!

Quote:

Originally Posted by CannonFodder (Post 462815)
I've found the opposite to be true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarquin Farquart (Post 462818)
I need more that: diagrams, pie charts, illustrations.


This is exactly what those jerks at the Nobel Prize committee said when they turned me down! It's a conspiracy, I tell you!

Actually, I have to agree that the signals women sometimes use would make tattoos on butts look like a radically simple system. Though I'm not sure if that is because women are unreasonably subtle, or because we blokes are just simple.

NovaSS 08 January 2008 02:23 PM

I had a friend tell me ALL women wanted anal sex, they just didnt know how to ask for it.

DemonWolf 08 January 2008 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaSS (Post 462863)
I had a friend tell me ALL women wanted anal sex, they just didnt know how to ask for it.

And he probably though that just sticking it in would be a good idea.

A Turtle Named Mack 08 January 2008 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachary Fizz (Post 462807)
Back in my bachelor days, I discovered that many women like to communicate their preferences (and not just sexual ones) by using a clever technique which I have chosen to call just bloody telling you what they want, in plain English.

Pffft! That would require actually listening to them. Are you daft, man?

missy_pooh_1997 08 January 2008 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by putitinwriting (Post 461729)
The best non-judgmental label I've heard for common lower-back tattoos is "ass antlers". Descriptive, without any of that "tramp" BS.

Lmbo:lol:


I have also heard that a tramp stamp is supposed to be a target so to speak.

Brad from Georgia 08 January 2008 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarquin Farquart (Post 462818)
I need more that: diagrams, pie charts, illustrations.

Get with the times, man! PowerPoint is the way to go.

Tarquin Farquart 08 January 2008 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad from Georgia (Post 462938)
Get with the times, man! PowerPoint is the way to go.

The "Al Gore" approach?

Zachary Fizz 08 January 2008 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Turtle Named Mack (Post 462926)
Pffft! That would require actually listening to them. Are you daft, man?

So I'm not the only one who gets "But I told you that" on a regular basis, then? :D

DemonWolf 08 January 2008 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachary Fizz (Post 462989)
So I'm not the only one who gets "But I told you that" on a regular basis, then? :D

I get that too. Usually it turns out that she "told me" while she was in the other room and I was busy doing something ele and did not even hear her.

She has not yet mastered the #1 rule of living someone with impaired hearing - "do not assume that I heard/understood you unless I respond." The addendum to that is "Do not assume that I understood you unless my answer makes sense."

Example:

Her: What kind is it?

Me: 2:00

Roadsterboy 08 January 2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarquin Farquart (Post 462818)
I need more that: diagrams, pie charts, illustrations.

Just bear in mind that the dotted lines on the illustrations are not actually there.

Stupid instruction books.

-D.

Wicked Tinkerbell 08 January 2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad from Georgia (Post 462938)
Get with the times, man! PowerPoint is the way to go.

Future pick up line?

Hey, baby. You wanna see my Power Point presentation?

(I'm sure the reply would be something about my boobs being my power points.)

BamaRainbow 08 January 2008 11:48 PM

A couple of random comments:

1--In most situations (like at a bar), wouldn't a tattoo on the lower back be a bit difficult to notice until the clothes have come off? By that point, I'd think that most couples would've already discussed what type of sex is and isn't going to happen. (This line of thought was based on some of the other comments about a lower back tattoo being a more hidden and concealable location.)

2--Turtle Named Mack kind of beat me to the punch with the specific tattoo that WOULD suggest a willingness/desire for anal sex. (I think a tattoo of two dogs going at it on the lower back would be a pretty good indicator of "I like anal". Or a tattoo saying "I LIKE ANAL"--maybe with a heart symbol for the "like".)

3--Obviously, this line of "reasoning" is done only from a (loopy) straight male perspective. There are plenty of younger gay "exclusive tops" who sport tattoos on their lower backs and plenty of younger gay "power bottoms" who don't.

Class Bravo 08 January 2008 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaRainbow (Post 463774)
1--In most situations (like at a bar), wouldn't a tattoo on the lower back be a bit difficult to notice until the clothes have come off? By that point, I'd think that most couples would've already discussed what type of sex is and isn't going to happen. (This line of thought was based on some of the other comments about a lower back tattoo being a more hidden and concealable location.)

I've seen a lot of outfits in which the lower back tattoo is quite easy to see, presumably by design (not even taking into account all the ones I've seen at the beach and swimming pools). Not to say that it's always on purpose, but it's certainly not necessary for one to have her clothes off in order to see this type of tattoo.

ETA: As a better example, I found a couple of pictures that I could easily envision seeing at a bar: (SFW)

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3

and, the beach example:

Link

crazybob 09 January 2008 01:31 AM

I have also heard of these referred to as Butthats, Crack Umbrellas, Rape Capes or Scag Tags.

There's always Dr. Turlington's Lower Back Tattoo Remover if you want to remove it later. :D

Class Bravo 09 January 2008 05:59 AM

Regressing back to the OP....

I have to think that any guy who truly thought that a certain type of tattoo is a girl's way of "asking" for anal is quite inexperienced with sex and has probably learned all he knows about sex from pornos and thinks they are real-life. He would be in for a rude awakening the first time he tried to insert himself you-know-where if the only "permission" he received was in the form of a tattoo.

missy_pooh_1997 09 January 2008 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazybob (Post 463905)
I have also heard of these referred to as Butthats, Crack Umbrellas, Rape Capes or Scag Tags.

There's always Dr. Turlington's Lower Back Tattoo Remover if you want to remove it later. :D

LMAO!!!! Now the only reminder you have of that trip to Jamaica is your son!!!:lol:

damian 09 January 2008 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachary Fizz (Post 462807)
I still cherish hopes of getting a Nobel prize when I publish a paper on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachary Fizz (Post 462823)
This is exactly what those jerks at the Nobel Prize committee said when they turned me down! It's a conspiracy, I tell you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarquin Farquart (Post 462818)
I need more that: diagrams, pie charts, illustrations.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad from Georgia (Post 462938)
Get with the times, man! PowerPoint is the way to go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarquin Farquart (Post 462949)
The "Al Gore" approach?

Al Gore stole Zach's Nobel prize !

Wild Redhead 10 January 2008 01:38 AM

When in doubt you can always refer to this song on Youtube.

WARNING: Very NFBSK ANAL SEX

A Turtle Named Mack 10 January 2008 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild Redhead (Post 465508)
When in doubt you can always refer to this song on Youtube.

WARNING: Very NFBSK ANAL SEX

That's hilarious - I wonder why I never hear that on the radio?

Tarquin Farquart 10 January 2008 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian (Post 464379)
Al Gore stole Zach's Nobel prize !

All part of the Liberal Conspiracy(TM)

BamaRainbow 11 January 2008 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Bravo (Post 463781)
I've seen a lot of outfits in which the lower back tattoo is quite easy to see, presumably by design (not even taking into account all the ones I've seen at the beach and swimming pools). Not to say that it's always on purpose, but it's certainly not necessary for one to have her clothes off in order to see this type of tattoo.

ETA: As a better example, I found a couple of pictures that I could easily envision seeing at a bar: (SFW)

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3

and, the beach example:

Link

Well, I did note that in MOST situations, you're not going to notice a lower back tattoo unless you're specifically looking for one. Yes, I'm well aware that such tats are easy to see because of the way some outfits are made, but at a bar (which isn't an especially well-lit area--I've been in some bars where you can't see a tattoo even on a guy's bicep unless you're within a couple of feet), your focus isn't NORMALLY going to be on a woman's lower back if you're harboring any interest in having sex with her. (And, I think that most females would quickly lose interest in you if you're spending the majority of your time behind her.)
The third picture, incidentally, looks pretty staged and I don't think the majority of people would even notice that tat without getting very up-close and personal. The second pic also showed a tattoo on her upper back (which drew my attention first, and at a bar, that would've been what I saw first; it may just be me, but when I see someone, I start at the top and work my way down).
And, as for the beach, well, it seems unlikely that most straight guys are going to spend much attention looking at a woman's lower back when there's something else to capture their attention. (If they can see the lower back, she's obviously wearing a two-piece outfit and the front tends to be the primary attraction.)
All I was pointing out is that a straight man who approaches any woman thinking they're going to boink her in the bum simply because she's got a tat on her lower back without TALKING to her for a while--usually including a bit about what she likes and dislikes doing sexually. Suppose a straight woman would turn this around and assume that a guy with a tat on his lower back is willing to have her plow his bottom with a strap-on. (Of course, there are websites out there that suggest some straight guys will have anal sex with each other simply for cash and/or the prospect of having sex with a "hot chick". So maybe there's something to that.)

HoneyBunchingOats 11 January 2008 08:24 AM

Maybe if the tattoo had an arrow pointing down the spine and had the words "Please insert here." Then the bearer might be into "backdoor" action.

Otherwise I thought the meaning of "Tramp stamp" was that it meant that the tattooed was more promiscuous. Unless the tattoo read "I'm savng myself for marriage" Or it could say that with an arrow pointing down between the cheecks.;)

KaiTheInvader 12 January 2008 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Turtle Named Mack (Post 461689)
... now maybe if it had an arrow and it said 'entrance in rear' :o


close to my idea for a tattoo.... I've always joked that if I did get a "tramp stamp", it would be a picture of a target with the words "aim here".

Zachary Fizz 12 January 2008 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian (Post 464379)
Al Gore stole Zach's Nobel prize !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarquin Farquart (Post 465931)
All part of the Liberal Conspiracy(TM)

I think this is further evidence, as if we needed it, that science and reason are hopelessly biased towards the left.

SatansHobbit 12 January 2008 06:03 AM

Well I think it would save a lot of confusion if all of the less adventurous women had "P.T.O" tattooed on their lower back.

Le Chevalier Blanc 18 January 2008 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SatansHobbit (Post 468551)
Well I think it would save a lot of confusion if all of the less adventurous women had "P.T.O" tattooed on their lower back.

Why would having an acronym for "Personal Time Off" be less adventurous? I would think that offering some "personal time" for getting "off" seems just as forward as the O.P. :p

I'll get it. :fish:

JD65 19 January 2008 09:42 AM

I had just heard a tramp stamp was an indication that the person in question put out, having nothing to do with the preferred type of sex. But I don't get out much.

Hmmm, my hairdresser has a tattoo across the back of her shoulders, and was planning on getting one down her spine. What's THAT supposed to mean?

SatansHobbit 19 January 2008 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD65 (Post 478712)
Hmmm, my hairdresser has a tattoo across the back of her shoulders, and was planning on getting one down her spine. What's THAT supposed to mean?

Masochism :)

CatPurrson 20 January 2008 04:05 AM

Oh boy! More sexist bullpuckey!:p I had a college prof who had a tattoo on her lower back. (The only reason I noticed was that she had on a pretty short shirt, and stretched to reach something. I'm thinking of getting a tattoo myself if I can ever afford one, so I tend to notice 'em.)

I'm not crazy about the lower back thing, I'm not sure why. I didn't realize that there were a lot of people out there spreading rumors about their "secret meaning", although it doesn't really surprise me. I remember reading a book once that said a woman who had multiple ear piercings was telling the world that she was a lesbian. WTF???

One of my students told me that he liked back tats because "they give me something to aim for." I told him, "Dude, if you're going for the lower back, your aim is OFF!":D :p

I can't remember what I was watching, but I saw something where a bartender was bragging about how he'd lead a girl to think that they were going to do it doggystyle, and then slip it in the "back door". He thought it was funny, and said that most girls really liked it but wouldn't admit it. IMO, if a guy doesn't make sure that anal entry is okay BEFOREHAND, it's rape. Just a simple "is it okay if I do this" would make a world of difference, instead of relying on some stupid UL about back tattoos.:eek: :mad:

CatPurrson

erinker74 12 April 2008 05:58 AM

As a female with a lower-back tattoo (as well as three others) let me just first say that I HATE HATE HATE the term "tramp stamp". All of my tats are in the locations they are because they are easily hidden if I choose, or at least minimially noticeable. The one on my lower back actually hides a birthmark. And I must admit that I enjoy the surprise on people's faces when they find out that the same Erin that wears cashmere cardigans and pearls to work is rocking four tats! It's the same childish glee I got from wearing a small pearl nose stud (which are impossible to find, btw - I had to make mine).

Secondly, I cannot stand anal sex. I find it unenjoyable at best and downright painful at worst and I refuse to apologize for that anymore. If a man "slipped" and tried to go back door, he would quickly find that his balls had been wrapped around his ears!

ETA: And speaking of, why is it that when I say I don't like anal sex, I get some ridiculous speech about how, if I just relaxed, I would really like it? I don't like it, okay? I am entitled to not like something sexual and I couldn't care less whether you think that makes me a prude. People do the same thing with seafood! I JUST DON'T LIKE IT, OKAY!


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