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urbanlegendfanatic 28 July 2018 04:04 PM

Money Obama gave to Iran
This keeps cruding up my inbox and I don't think it can be true but I can't find anything to disprove it. Maybe something for Snopes to put in their next mailing?

ASL 11 September 2018 05:02 AM

I suspect it refers to frozen assets released as part of the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran. The money was never the US's to use, just to hold in keeping with sanctions up until that time.

Alarm 11 September 2018 12:46 PM

Or maybe it just shows what a crappy businessman Trump is?

Obama was able to make 150 billion, Trump can't even get 20...

GenYus234 11 September 2018 02:13 PM

I thought Mexico was going to pay for the wall. Why does Trump need to get anything for it?

BrianB 12 September 2018 10:28 AM

"No, Donald Trump, we are not giving Iran $150 billion for 'nothing'" Politifact 17 March 2016:

Trump said under the Iran nuclear deal, "we give them $150 billion, we get nothing."

Trump is referring to the amount of previously frozen Iranian assets the deal releases. To be clear, this is money that already belongs to Iran so weíre not "giving" them anything. The $150 billion is a high estimate, and most experts say the real figure is closer to $100 billion, while Iran is probably only able to access a fraction of that.

In exchange for lifting the sanctions, the United States and its allies get to block Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon in the near future. One can argue whether we got enough, but we didnít get "nothing."

We rate Trumpís claim False.
"FACT CHECK Trumpís Favorite Iran-Obama Cash Story, Still Bogus No Matter How Often He Tells It" The Associated Press/ 26 April 2018:

TRUMP: ďThe Iran deal is a terrible deal. We paid $150 billion. We gave $1.8 billion in cash. Thatís actual cash, barrels of cash. Itís insane. Itís ridiculous. It should have never been made. But we will be talking about it.Ē

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THE FACTS: There was no $150 billion payout from the U.S. treasury. The money he refers to represents Iranian assets held abroad that were frozen until the deal was reached and Tehran was allowed to access its funds.

The payout of about $1.8 billion is a separate matter. That dates to the 1970s, when Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured.
"AP fact check: Donald Trump and the Iran nuclear deal" PBS News Hour 28 July 2016:

TRUMP, boasting about how he would have conducted talks with Iran over reducing its nuclear weapons capabilities: ďI would have said sorry, we canít give you the $150 billion back. We want to give you the money back, but we donít have it. Itís not there.Ē

THE FACTS: The Iranians immediately would have called Trumpís bluff. Thatís because the U.S. never had $150 billion to give back in the first place.

Iran had foreign assets spread across numerous banks and countries before it struck a deal with the U.S. and other countries to limit its nuclear program in exchange for the lifting of international sanctions. The sanctions meant Tehran couldnít access these funds abroad. But Iranís government knew very well where its money was.

Much of the revenue came from Iranís oil sales to China, India, Japan and South Korea. These countries were able to purchase Iranian petroleum before the July 2015 nuclear agreement, but U.S. financial restrictions made it all but impossible to facilitate payments. So the money mainly sat in escrow in those countries, instead. These were not funds within the grasp of a U.S. president.

UEL 12 September 2018 07:20 PM

Tried my hand at meme making. :D

RichardM 12 September 2018 09:25 PM

Like it. :D

But that's treason and collusion with Canada. ;)

queen of the caramels 13 September 2018 02:16 AM

we have geese battalions on stand-bye.

They will take over the US once all Hurricane Florence beats the coastal states to their knees.

Alarm 13 September 2018 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by queen of the caramels (Post 1987084)
we have geese battalions on stand-bye.

They will take over the US once all Hurricane Florence beats the coastal states to their knees.

*Cue montage of Canada geese dive bombing the US with droppings while 'Ride Of The Valkyries' plays in the background*

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