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snopes 18 May 2008 11:04 PM

More companies associated with hate groups
 
Comment: Staedtler pencils are black and red because they were big
sponsors on the National Socialist (Nazi) Party in Germany in the 1930s
(the Nazi's colours being red and black).

True/False?

FullMetal 19 May 2008 03:34 AM

I've always seen Staedtler pencils as blue and black not Red and black...

so I'm not sure if the connection is there for the reasons stated...

Dropbear 19 May 2008 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FullMetal (Post 617088)
I've always seen Staedtler pencils as blue and black not Red and black...

so I'm not sure if the connection is there for the reasons stated...

The colour blue for the Mars Lumograph pencil was introduced in 1901 according to the STAEDTLER website.

Dropbear

Dropbear 19 May 2008 03:59 AM

The red and black pencil is the Staedtler 'tradition'. I haven't been able to locate when that variety was developed.

Dropbear

Natalie 26 May 2008 06:11 PM

That seems reasonable. Considering the average European or North American's opinion of Nazis, I would think the company would have changed the colors at some point if they had actually been inspired by Nazis.

snopes 26 May 2008 07:38 PM

Natalie, please pay attention to the Posting Guidelines, particularly entry #3.

BamaRainbow 28 May 2008 09:35 PM

Actually, the Nazi colors would be red, black and white. The black hakenkreuz--aka, swastika--was on a white circle layered on a red background.
Also, it should be noted that the Imperial German flag was a black-white-red horizontal tricolor. And that flag was simply a continuation from the North German Confederation flag.

There have been other flags using red and black with NO connection to Nazism: The Haitian flag under the Duvalier regimes was a simple black-red vertical bicolor; the Albanian flag (red field, black two-headed eagle); most Arab flags (Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Syria, UAE, Yemen--all of which also include white; most also feature either green or a design or both); Papua-New Guinea (which also includes the Southern Cross on the black and a bird-of-paradise on the red). It's also worth noting that the modern German flag also incorporates red and black in the current design. There are only two differences between the modern and Imperial flags: first, the modern flag has a yellow/gold stripe while the Imperial had a white; and, second, the order of the stripes (the Imperial flag was black, white, red; the modern is black, red, yellow/gold).

snopes 10 June 2008 03:13 AM

Comment: Is it true that Fat Mo's restaurants are owned by the mafia or a
gang? I heard that "Fat M" is short for Father Mohammed.

musicgeek 10 June 2008 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snopes (Post 640773)
Comment: Is it true that Fat Mo's restaurants are owned by the mafia or a
gang? I heard that "Fat M" is short for Father Mohammed.

So it's a Roman Catholic Muslim Mafia gang?

snopes 18 September 2008 12:37 AM

Comment: Today I was told that 'everyone knows' Circle K stores are owned
by the KKK. I thought, there's no way this is true but don't see anything
on your website.

snopes 12 January 2014 09:04 AM

Comment: Hi I'm curious about something my husband told me the other
day...my husband & I were discussing toothpaste and we both agreed we
didn't like the Crest toothpaste we recently used. He said it has a lot of
fluoride in it, which isn't good and he said he also remembers hearing a
rumor, so many yrs back, that Crest toothpaste is made by a company that
was known to be satanic followers. He said he also remembers when Crest
1st came out with the "new stand up pump" that there was a 666 design on
the bottom of the base & so he then really believed what he had heard
about the satanist owning Crest. Is any of this true? I'm curious...

Hummelcat 12 January 2014 11:09 AM

Wait, wait... I heard decades ago that fluoride in toothpaste was a communist plot (for what nefarious purposes I never assertained), and now you're telling me that fluoride is actually a satanic plot???!??? Oh, wait again... I think that was the fluoride in drinking water that was the communist plot. But nevermind.

The fact that Crest toothpaste has fluoride proves that the company is owned by a satanist. And the fact that the OP vaguely remembers something about the number 666 on the base of some variety of the product. Well, that definitely proves it.

And because practically every toothpaste company manufactures varieties of their product that contain flouride proves what? That all toothpaste companies are owned by satanists? Or just Crest?

I'm spending far too much time on this....

Lainie 12 January 2014 04:00 PM

Crest is a Procter & Gamble product, and apparently that stupid rumor is just never going to die.

I used to work for a distributor that carried Procter & Gamble products. We had a college student who worked summers for us who would refer to P&G as "the Satan vendor," as in "we need to place an order with the Satan vendor," and she wasn't joking. Her boss heard her do it and apparently didn't care -- she may have believed the rumor herself. It was completely inappropriate and I wish I'd said something to the boss's boss.

diddy 12 January 2014 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lainie (Post 1794295)
Crest is a Procter & Gamble product, and apparently that stupid rumor is just never going to die.

Good find and I agree that the old rumor is not going to die. It seems to be just another variation of an old rumor that despite a massive debunking and even lawsuits from P&G concerning (IIRC) defamation about this myth.

It amazes me that despite the whole thing not making sense in any way, the debunking, and everything else P&G has done to convince people that this is not true it never dies.

Singing in the Drizzle 13 January 2014 02:55 AM

Fluoridate is a evil communist plot, I saw in the move theater so it must be true. :fish:


General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream.

Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: [very nervous] Lord, Jack.

General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?

Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I... no, no. I don't, Jack.

General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. 1946, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Uh, Jack, Jack, listen... tell me, tell me, Jack. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?

General Jack D. Ripper: [somewhat embarrassed] Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.

Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.

General Jack D. Ripper: Yes, a uh, a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I... I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence.

Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.

General Jack D. Ripper: I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake.

Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: No.

General Jack D. Ripper: But I... I do deny them my essence.


Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb


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